Miami fans not happy

[FSUmanager]

This just cracks me up and shows how badly most Miami fans do not understand what is causing the problems. Might be robotic, but hopefully not.

Has been on the news, blogs, and radio in Miami.

#FireAlGolden by Danny Vazquez - GoFundMe

 

[WhiteMamba]

Ha! That is too much, almost to that goal..

 

[ericd7633]

I'd give him about 3 more years at least. He has a great 2015 class and an awesome start to the 2016 recruiting class.

 

[SwampHumpy]

I think UF had the original grass roots uprising online with fireronzook.com. It was a hilarious site from what I remember.

Would have been nice to have GoFundMe back then......

 

[pennstatenut]

So glad he didn't come back to PSU and so glad he's ruining Miami.

 

[Brasky]

So much for it being a rebound OOC win.

 

[xpuctaqpGT]

It has become very hard for a University with fewer than 25k undergrads to compete for national championships...

 

[TexasExes98]

So Miami really does have fans? Learn something new everyday!

 

[7Samurai13]

It has become very hard for a University with fewer than 25k undergrads to compete for national championships...

When you can't just buy thugs anymore? Who are we kidding, they never stopped.

 

[nddulac]

It has become very hard for a University with fewer than 25k undergrads to compete for national championships...

Which came first? the Chicken or the Egg? here is a study on how athletic success affects admissions applications:

http://www.thesmartjournal.com/admissions.pdf

I was at Santa Clara University they year after Brandi Chastain (a Santa Clara alumna) scored the winning goal kick in the Women's World cup and ripped of her shirt exposing her sports bra. That year, applications for admission tripled. They called it "the Chastain effect."

So go figure. Maybe the smaller enrollment schools just need to put a better product on the field, and then their numbers will go up.

 

[Brasky]

So Miami really does have fans? Learn something new everyday!

They wait in the shadows like sewer rats...

 

[TexasExes98]

It has become very hard for a University with fewer than 25k undergrads to compete for national championships...

That's not the problem. The problem started when Shalala wanted to clean up the program, hence the reason Thug U is now just the U. They can't recruit anymore dumbshit, illiterate, fast as fuck thugs from the 'Hood anymore. Totally killed the program.....

 

[nddulac]

They can't recruit anymore dumbshit, illiterate thugs from the 'Hood anymore

Yeah, I couldn't get admitted to Miami either.

 

[TexasExes98]

Yeah, I couldn't get admitted to Miami either.

Did you watch the 30 for 30 segment about The U? It went into detail about this when the school decided to put more effort into fielding a winning football team. Academic requirements had to be lowered when they hired Schnellenbeger and he started recruiting the ghettos.....

 

[Brasky]

That's not the problem. They can't recruit anymore dumbshit, illiterate, fast as fuck thugs from the 'Hood anymore. Totally killed the program.....

Remind me to take what you say with a racist grain of salt from now on.

 

[xpuctaqpGT]

That's not the problem. The problem started when Shalala wanted to clean up the program, hence the reason Thug U is now just the U. They can't recruit anymore dumbshit, illiterate, fast as fuck thugs from the 'Hood anymore. Totally killed the program.....

I'd say what killed that was the modern cell phone video era. Have you ever stopped to really really consider the fact that more than 50% of Americans have smart phones with video recording technology. That's 150,000,000+ video cameras walking around at all times. It has become considerably harder for programs to cheat and athletes to misbehave/break the law and not get caught on video.


The legitimate costs for competing on the national stage for a championship are steep. You need the money to pay for a top notch head coach AND (and this is just as important) top notch assistant coaches. You need the money to pay for top notch practice facilities. You need the money to pay for a national network of recruiters that can visit high school blue chips anywhere at any time and shmooze them.

With the exception of Notre Dame, Universities with fewer than 25k undergrads don't have the financial resources to compete with the big boys. Miami has 10k undergrads. That's 15k fewer students to buy home tickets, and merchandise, and makes for a much much much smaller alumni base.

 

[nddulac]

Academic requirements had to be lowered when they hired Schnellenbeger

I remember the Schnellenberger years quite well. He sported graduation rates as low as in the 20% range. It was an abomination. (Of course, he also had Bernie Kosar who managed to graduate in 3 years.)

 

[xpuctaqpGT]

A look at who played for the BCS title over the years. (winners in bold) (some numbers rounded)

1998 Tennessee 21k undergrads vs FSU 31k undergrads

1999 FSU 31k vs Va Tech 23k

2000 Oklahoma 21k vs FSU 31k

2001 Miami 10k vs Nebraska 19k

2002 OSU 44k vs Miami 10k

2003 LSU 25k vs Oklahoma 21k

2004 USC 18k vs Oklahoma 21k (USC also has 21k post grads)

2005 Texas 38k vs USC 18k

2006 UF 33k vs OSU 44k

2007 LSU 25k vs OSU 44k

2008 UF 33k vs Oklahoma 21k

2009 Bama 29k vs Texas 38k

2010 Auburn 20k vs Oregon 21k

2011 Bama 29k vs LSU 25k

2012 Bama 29k vs Notre Dame 12k

2013 FSU 31k vs Auburn 20k

 

[xpuctaqpGT]

A look at who played for the BCS title over the years. (winners in bold) (some numbers rounded)

1998 Tennessee 21k undergrads vs FSU 31k undergrads

1999 FSU 31k vs Va Tech 23k

2000 Oklahoma 21k vs FSU 31k

2001 Miami 10k vs Nebraska 19k

2002 OSU 44k vs Miami 10k

2003 LSU 25k vs Oklahoma 21k

2004 USC 18k vs Oklahoma 21k (USC also has 21k post grads)

2005 Texas 38k vs USC 18k

2006 UF 33k vs OSU 44k

2007 LSU 25k vs OSU 44k

2008 UF 33k vs Oklahoma 21k

2009 Bama 29k vs Texas 38k

2010 Auburn 20k vs Oregon 21k

2011 Bama 29k vs LSU 25k

2012 Bama 29k vs Notre Dame 12k

2013 FSU 31k vs Auburn 20k

The last time a "small" university won the NC was in 2001. Only 3 times has a "small" university even played for the title. (Miami twice, Notre Dame once). Most of these big universities have been big for awhile now. They have a large number of alumni that can donate money to the program. It is very very hard for anyone with under 20k undergrads (and yes I said 25k earlier, I"m revising this) to compete financially.

 

[nddulac]

The last time a "small" university won the NC was in 2001. Only 3 times has a "small" university even played for the title. (Miami twice, Notre Dame once). Most of these big universities have been big for awhile now. They have a large number of alumni that can donate money to the program. It is very very hard for anyone with under 20k undergrads (and yes I said 25k earlier, I"m revising this) to compete financially.

The notion that small schools can raise big bank is completely false. Here is a list of the six largest endowments for universities and they respective undergraduate enrollments.

University             Endowment (in billions)    Enrollment
Harvard University     $32.334                      6722
Yale University        $20.780                      5430
University of Texas    $20.448                     39979 (Austin)
Stanford University    $18.668                      7061
Princeton University   $18.200                      5323
MIT                    $11.005                      2368

The University of Texas endowment refers to the entire system, but the enrollment is only for the Austin campus. Certainly, endowment isn't tied to success on the football field, but it is a measure of a school's ability to raise money. Draw your own conclusions. (One I draw is that Harvard is very rich.)