POLL Is Marshawn Lynch a Hall of Fame Running Back?

[HammerDown]

Vote and discuss.

 

[jarntt]

Can you change "no" to "fuck no"?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

There are some really dopey and indefensible HOF selections at RB over the years, but I'm still saying no.

 

[Red_Chaos]

Career (2007-2015)
attempts 2,144
Yards 9,112
average 4.2
touchdown 74
Rec 252


Rank Player League Yrs Att Yds Avg TD
1 (2) EMMITT SMITH NFL 13 4,052 17,162 4.2 153
2 (1) Walter Payton* NFL 13 3,838 16,726 4.4 110
3 (3) Barry Sanders NFL 10 3,062 15,269 5.0 99
4 (4) Eric Dickerson* NFL 11 2,996 13,259 4.4 90
5 (5) Tony Dorsett* NFL 12 2,936 12,739 4.3 77
6 (6) Jim Brown* NFL 9 2,359 12,312 5.2 106
7 (7) Marcus Allen NFL 16 3,022 12,243 4.1 123
8 (8) Franco Harris* NFL 13 2,949 12,120 4.1 91
9 (9) Thurman Thomas NFL 13 2,877 12,074 4.2 65
10 (12) JEROME BETTIS NFL 10 2,873 11,542 4.0 62
11 (10) John Riggins* NFL 14 2,916 11,352 3.9 104
12 (11) O.J. Simpson* AFL-NFL 11 2,404 11,236 4.7 61
13 (13) Ricky Watters NFL 10 2,622 10,643 4.1 78
14 (16) MARSHALL FAULK NFL 9 2,367 10,395 4.4 87
15 (18) CURTIS MARTIN NFL 8 2,604 10,361 4.0 71
16 (14) O.J. Anderson NFL 14 2,562 10,273 4.0 81
17 (15) Joe Perry* AAFC-NFL 16 1,929 9,723 5.0 71
18 (17) Earl Campbell* NFL 8 2,187 9,407 4.3 74
19 (--) EDDIE GEORGE NFL 7 2,421 8,978 3.7 59
20 (19) Terry Allen NFL 10 2,152 8,614 4.0 73

 

[skinzfan]

Hang his name on the stadium wall if you want...HOF? .. Not even close

 

[JMR]

I say 55% no, 45% yes. He didn't have the longevity, but he was every bit as good as many of the other RBs who have made it. Most forefront example: Jerome Bettis. Lynch's case will be mostly built on the idea of "Can you tell the story of Pro Football without talking about him?" He has arguably the best run in the history of the league and was among the best players at his position in his era. It might not be enough to get him in, but it's not like he hasn't had a career worthy of consideration.

 

[jarntt]

I say 55% no, 45% yes. He didn't have the longevity, but he was every bit as good as many of the other RBs who have made it. Most forefront example: Jerome Bettis. Lynch's case will be mostly built on the idea of "Can you tell the story of Pro Football without talking about him?" He has arguably the best run in the history of the league and was among the best players at his position in his era. It might not be enough to get him in, but it's not like he hasn't had a career worthy of consideration.

ummmm....yes, yes you can

 

[cdumler7]

I say 55% no, 45% yes. He didn't have the longevity, but he was every bit as good as many of the other RBs who have made it. Most forefront example: Jerome Bettis. Lynch's case will be mostly built on the idea of "Can you tell the story of Pro Football without talking about him?" He has arguably the best run in the history of the league and was among the best players at his position in his era. It might not be enough to get him in, but it's not like he hasn't had a career worthy of consideration.

Have to agree with jarntt on this one. I think you can tell the history of the league without him. The Seahawks Super Bowl run will be more known for the defense than it ever will be for Marshawn Lynch. Doesn't mean he didn't contribute in a big way but still he is not the main reason they won. And while he has been a great RB in this era this has also been the era where RB's are a dime a dozen. Not like he has above and beyond dominated compared to other RB's. I mean AP is still the class of the league when it comes to the RB position. Throw in while he has been great he has never had a point where he was considered the best RB in the league. He has since 2011 been a top-10 RB in the league but never that top guy.

He is in the Hall of Very Good but I don't think he makes the HOF.

 

[JMR]

Well like I said guys, that's just how his case will be built. I didn't really take a side (other than saying I think he probably doesn't get in, so maybe I agree with you). But I think it's also a bit hasty to so easily waive off the best run in playoff history. We aren't talking about Timmy Smith here, either. Lynch was on top for several years and racked up good #s.

So who was the better player -- Bettis or Lynch?

 

[dkmightyhammer]

ummmm....yes, yes you can

No you can't because any time people talk about the best runs of all time Marshawn's "Beast quake" run in the playoffs vs the Saints will be number one or close to it.

I think you can make case for Marshawn that goes beyond stats. People get too hung up on yards and TD's, but that doesn't tell the whole story. If all you want is the players with the best stats then there's no longer any need to have voters at the HOF.

Marshawn Lynch may not have the stats that put him in the top 10 or 20 but there is little dispute that he was one of the most feared runners of all time and one of the hardest players to tackle there ever was. I've literally seen Marshawn bust through a couple tackles, have only one player between him and the goal line, and that last player step out of the way rather than try to tackle him. Dion Sanders laughed and called it a "business decision" when that happened.

Stats aren't everything is my point.

 

[jeffro151]

If he is HOF worthy, than so is Arian Foster, Matt Forte and Steven Jackson. (IMO, none are worthy)

 

[cdumler7]

Well like I said guys, that's just how his case will be built. I didn't really take a side (other than saying I think he probably doesn't get in, so maybe I agree with you). But I think it's also a bit hasty to so easily waive off the best run in playoff history. We aren't talking about Timmy Smith here, either. Lynch was on top for several years and racked up good #s.

So who was the better player -- Bettis or Lynch?

Well considering I think Bettis is one of the more undeserving HOF players in NFL history I would say Lynch is better. Bettis though was a very likable guy and we have seen that players with a likable personality find it easier to get in. Lynch with his "I'm only here so I don't get fined" personality will not appeal to voters.

Also not sure he had the best run in playoff history. Terrell Davis had 7 straight 100 yard games in the playoffs while winning 2 Super Bowls. In those 7 games he also had 11 touchdowns while averaging 5.6 yards per carry.

Compare that to Lynch who over a 6 game period only had 4 100 yard games and only 6 touchdowns while averaging 4.73 yards per carry.

If we are talking entire playoff career Davis did more in 8 games than Lynch did in 11 games. More yards, touchdowns, yards per carry, yards per game, and even did more in the passing game.

 

[Manster7588]

If simply being an NFL Story gets you into the HOF I guess Manziel gets fitted for his Jacket tomorrow.

I'm leaning NO he doesn't get in but wont be shocked if he did.

 

[cdumler7]

Sorry if you were just talking about the one run in the Beast Quake run. Still one run does not make a career.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Sorry if you were just talking about the one run in the Beast Quake run. Still one run does not make a career.

You're right that one run doesn't make a career, but that one run epitomizes the style that Marshawn used every single time he had the ball. If he ever stepped out of bounds it was only to stop the clock.

If Lynch gets into the HOF (which is doubtful) it won't be based off of stats. It will be based on his style and reputation. Kind of like when a Guard or Tackle gets in. There aren't a lot of stats for those guys so voters go off the eye test and reputation. Lynch's numbers are pretty decent, but his rep and style get him extra points. He loses points for his press conference skills though. Who knows? We'll find out in 5 to 10 years.

 

[cdumler7]

You're right that one run doesn't make a career, but that one run epitomizes the style that Marshawn used every single time he had the ball. If he ever stepped out of bounds it was only to stop the clock.

If Lynch gets into the HOF (which is doubtful) it won't be based off of stats. It will be based on his style and reputation. Kind of like when a Guard or Tackle gets in. There aren't a lot of stats for those guys so voters go off the eye test and reputation. Lynch's numbers are pretty decent, but his rep and style get him extra points. He loses points for his press conference skills though. Who knows? We'll find out in 5 to 10 years.

I'm not saying that I would be upset if he got in or anything. He was a great player and yeah I loved his style of running. I just would be a bit shocked though if he did get in. I think if he had another 2 good years (shouldn't have messed around while in Buffalo but then again wouldn't have been traded if he didn't) this decision would be a lot easier. There to me though is just a group of RB's that are right there with him that have just as good of an argument of why they should be in but yet keep getting voted out. And like I said I do think his personality does hurt his chances. If he was like Bettis I would be surprised if he wasn't in the HOF. I hate that personality plays a part in the decision.

 

[Kevin12773]

You're right that one run doesn't make a career, but that one run epitomizes the style that Marshawn used every single time he had the ball. If he ever stepped out of bounds it was only to stop the clock.

If Lynch gets into the HOF (which is doubtful) it won't be based off of stats. It will be based on his style and reputation. Kind of like when a Guard or Tackle gets in. There aren't a lot of stats for those guys so voters go off the eye test and reputation. Lynch's numbers are pretty decent, but his rep and style get him extra points. He loses points for his press conference skills though. Who knows? We'll find out in 5 to 10 years.

Marshawn isn't exactly a media darling is he? If he's borderline at best he's not getting in for that point alone.

 

[HammerDown]

Can you change "no" to "fuck no"?

That does seem appropriate.

Have any Seattle fans expressed outrage yet?

 

[Cave_Johnson]

I could choose two options so I picked both yes and no. I'm right either way.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

I will say I really want to see him get in just for his Hall of Fame induction speech. I imagine it'd be something like what Alex Lifeson did when Rush finally got in the Rock and Roll HoF. Either that or he'd just grab his dick and jump into the crowd.