Is Cam Newton a great (or even good?) QB at doing what QB's are paid to do, throw?

[night]

If Cam wasn't an athletic freak I don't think his arm is accurate enough to be a NFL quarterback. Once he starts losing a step or two I don't think his job is safe.

 

[Jakology]

You can't find me 5 QBs who throw a better deep ball than Cam Newton.

 

[BradPittsEvilTwin]

he had them last year and years before.

hes not a rookie lol

going into this year when he had steve smith and/or kelvin benjamin, etc

85.4 rating
59.5% comp

not far off this years throwing numbers.

It's not unreasonable to think he would get better with experience. But he's got no one to throw to this year.

 

[Jakology]

If Cam wasn't an athletic freak I don't think his arm is accurate enough to be a NFL quarterback. Once he starts losing a step or two I don't think his job is safe.

Would you actually watch the games and reevaluate your opinion?

 

[Balljim55]

If Rock had a 5" pecker he would make a poll about flaws in 6" peckers

 

[BloodType49]

I think he is a good/above average passer, some of the throws he makes are simply incredible and he has a nice quick release of the ball.

 

[Rock Strongo]

So you are only focusing on one part of what makes up Cam Newton and why he has helped his team be an undefeated team this year. You are also not taking into account who he is throwing to. You are looking at this in such a small vacuum that you are missing the very big picture. Pretty much you are trying to force people to vote the way you want them to vote by only focusing on one part of his game while also not looking at what he has around him.

Cam will never be a top-10 QB in accuracy. That is just not him. He doesn't have to be to win though. Because he can make big plays with his legs and because a lot of his throws do seem to be of the deeper variety (he is 4th in air yards per attempt). He also has the 4th fewest percentage of his yards being after the catch meaning his receivers are not getting a ton of separation. So he is having to throw it further than most just to get yards this season.

So again when looking at it with the vacuum you have set up here then no he is not a good passer of the football. When you begin to expand the view a bit he isn't as bad as you are trying to make him out to be.

i didnt read ater the first sentence. yes, QB's are primarily paid to throw. its why tim tebow isnt in football. he threw a football like it was a half full can of paint.

 

[redseat]

Haven't seen enough games of his to vote... From what I have seen, which is limited he seems to be able to throw the ball well

 

[Rock Strongo]

I think he is a good/slightly above average passer, some of the throws he makes are simply incredible and he has a nice quick release of the ball.

thank you for not being a dick and just voting and discussing.

 

[night]

Would you actually watch the games and reevaluate your opinion?

Hey, one highlight proves he's accurate! Cam's success stems from his athleticism and he would have never been given a chance based purely on his quarterback skills.

 

[Jakology]

Hey, one highlight proves he's accurate! Cam's success stems from his athleticism and he would have never been given a chance based purely on his quarterback skills.

I actually posted other highlights for examples earlier in this thread, and if you actually watched him play, you would know that he's clearly one of the most accurate deep passers we've ever seen.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Hey, one highlight proves he's accurate! Cam's success stems from his athleticism and he would have never been given a chance based purely on his quarterback skills.

see? you sir, are a smart poster who knows football. i found one!

 

[cdumler7]

i didnt read ater the first sentence. yes, QB's are primarily paid to throw. its why tim tebow isnt in football. he threw a football like it was a half full can of paint.

There are lots of reasons Tim Tebow is not in the NFL. He couldn't throw. He couldn't read a defense. He was a locker room distraction. He was terrible at practice (Champ Bailey commented on this just this past week). The list can go on.

You not reading my post just secures that you are wanting to control the conversation by limiting what is allowed to be talked about. You are not trying to find facts you are trying to to force small snippets of information down our throats and tell us "this is the truth." A very limited look at stats doesn't paint a very clear picture of who a player actually is.

Also QB's are paid to do so much more than pass. If that is the case then Brady was a terrible QB to start out his career. I mean those first few years starting he wasn't a great passer. He wasn't terrible but he wasn't great either. He was a great game manager. So does that mean we should take those first couple of Super Bowls out of the discussion when talking about Brady being the GOAT?

 

[Rock Strongo]

There are lots of reasons Tim Tebow is not in the NFL. He couldn't throw. He couldn't read a defense. He was a locker room distraction. He was terrible at practice (Champ Bailey commented on this just this past week). The list can go on.

You not reading my post just secures that you are wanting to control the conversation by limiting what is allowed to be talked about. You are not trying to find facts you are trying to to force small snippets of information down our throats and tell us "this is the truth." A very limited look at stats doesn't paint a very clear picture of who a player actually is.

Also QB's are paid to do so much more than pass. If that is the case then Brady was a terrible QB to start out his career. I mean those first few years starting he wasn't a great passer. He wasn't terrible but he wasn't great either. He was a great game manager. So does that mean we should take those first couple of Super Bowls out of the discussion when talking about Brady being the GOAT?

no, not reading your diatribe shows it was off topic. i asked if cam newton is a good thrower of the football.

you refuse to answer.

 

[Balljim55]

Thanks to completion percentages, We now know who the Best NFL QB is this year - Its Tyrod Taylor. Mr Brady is 5th.
ompletion Percentage Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 124 176 70.5 1,436 8.16 63 11 4 21 106.2 205
2 Drew Brees, QB NO 257 370 69.5 2,972 8.03 80 20 9 23 101.3 330
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 269 390 69.0 3,033 7.78 70 19 7 21 100.7 337
4 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 226 333 67.9 2,278 6.84 78 14 9 12 89.9 253
5 Tom Brady, QB NE 251 370 67.8 3,043 8.22 76 24 3 21 111.1 338
6 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 239 357 66.9 2,702 7.57 55 12 7 17 92.4 300
7 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 141 211 66.8 1,887 8.94 64 10 7 10 97.0 315
8 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 196 296 66.2 2,423 8.19 80 18 5 14 104.6 269
9 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 175 266 65.8 2,118 7.96 50 10 7 33 91.6 235
10 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 147 224 65.6 1,795 8.01 61 13 6 20 98.3 256

 

[Jakology]

And yeah. Let's just throw out the door the possibility of him getting some actual weapons at WR and improving his completion %.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Thanks to completion percentages, We now know who the Best NFL QB is this year - Its Tyrod Taylor. Mr Brady is 5th.
ompletion Percentage Leaders - Qualified
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Tyrod Taylor, QB BUF 124 176 70.5 1,436 8.16 63 11 4 21 106.2 205
2 Drew Brees, QB NO 257 370 69.5 2,972 8.03 80 20 9 23 101.3 330
3 Philip Rivers, QB SD 269 390 69.0 3,033 7.78 70 19 7 21 100.7 337
4 Kirk Cousins, QB WSH 226 333 67.9 2,278 6.84 78 14 9 12 89.9 253
5 Tom Brady, QB NE 251 370 67.8 3,043 8.22 76 24 3 21 111.1 338
6 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 239 357 66.9 2,702 7.57 55 12 7 17 92.4 300
7 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 141 211 66.8 1,887 8.94 64 10 7 10 97.0 315
8 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 196 296 66.2 2,423 8.19 80 18 5 14 104.6 269
9 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 175 266 65.8 2,118 7.96 50 10 7 33 91.6 235
10 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 147 224 65.6 1,795 8.01 61 13 6 20 98.3 256

why did you focus on one metric when i listed several at once?

weird.

 

[Rock Strongo]

And yeah. Let's just throw out the door the possibility of him getting some actual weapons at WR and improving his completion %.

like kelvin benjamin and steve smith in past years where his numbers were similar to this year?

you know hes not a rookie, and you know who steve smith is, greg olsen, kelvin benjamin, etc?

 

[Balljim55]

no, not reading your diatribe shows it was off topic. i asked if cam newton is a good thrower of the football.

you refuse to answer.

No you asked if Cam was good at doing what QB's are paid to do

 

[Rock Strongo]

No you asked if Cam was good at doing what QB's are paid to do

yes, then i listed:

comp %
YPG
rating

and others

why did you just show comp %?

weird.