Im sorry Mussina isnt deserving of HOF.

[navamind]

Utley hit in a bandbox. Kent was underrated as a defender in my opinion.

Of course you think that, you're a Giants fan.

 

[navamind]

Uh oh, more name calling. You mad or something?

Even though you resort to name calling yourself?

Uh oh here comes another whiny bitch

LOL! The surety of a defeated argument is when the whiny bitch in you and the name calling comes out.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Yea, but Smoltz would've been providing more value to his team had he been a starter (I know he was rebounding from surgery, but Smoltz at 200 innings is worth more than him a reliever at 70 innings).

That's right "Darsh"!!!

 

[broncosmitty]

I tend to agree with that.

You think Bonds or Clemens would get in if they dropped dead?


I do.


Same with Rose. For sure on Rose though. I'm not sure on Clemens, but think he'd get the little bump in percentage so long as erybody knew he wouldn't get to give a speech and relish in the moment.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

"i freely admit that didn't know that Roy Halladay was an elite pitcher of his generation, but you should all take me and my opinions seriously"

Get the fuck out of here, clown.

Roy Halladay.....pffftttt - so he threw a no-hitter in BOTH leagues, pitchers do that all the time!!!

The only thing that could keep him out is his piloting skills, one could argue he was on a Corey Lidle level in that regard.

J/K, R.I.P. Roy - you were a BEAST!!!

 

[Chewbaccer]

I always thought Mussina was better than Glavine, and have always thought 300 wins was the only reason why Glavine was first ballot.

Mussina never had the super dominant Cy Young season like Glavine, but he was far more consistent.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Roy Halladay.....pffftttt - so he threw a no-hitter in BOTH leagues, pitchers do that all the time!!!

The only thing that could keep him out is his piloting skills, one could argue he was on a Corey Lidle level in that regard.

J/K, R.I.P. Roy - you were a BEAST!!!

When I think of Roy Halladay, the only thing that comes to mind is Brian McCann's game tying grand slam in what might be the craziest game I can recall.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

I tend to agree with that.

I respectfully disagree Champ.

 

[broncosmitty]

I always thought Mussina was better than Glavine, and have always thought 300 wins was the only reason why Glavine was first ballot.

Mussina never had the super dominant Cy Young season like Glavine, but he was far more consistent.

Your Mazzone run in Atlanta with the Big 3 is about as loved of a staff as there ever has been.



But I think 300, as a lefty, made it automatic.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I respectfully disagree Champ.

You think he'd be 1st ballot?

I wouldn't argue against it, but I'm not sure.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Your Mazzone run in Atlanta with the Big 3 is about as loved of a staff as there ever has been.



But I think 300, as a lefty, made it automatic.

Of the big 3, I've always said Maddux was the best pitcher, Smoltz had the best stuff, and Glavine ran off to the Mets.

 

[broncosmitty]

Of the big 3, I've always said Maddux was the best pitcher, Smoltz had the best stuff, and Glavine ran off to the Mets.

Just think how great your childhood couldve been with more Doyle Alexander in it.




Damn it...

 

[Chewbaccer]

Just think how great your childhood couldve been with more Doyle Alexander in it.




Damn it...

Hey, Doyle Alexander did exactly what yall wanted him to do.

 

[broncosmitty]

Hey, Doyle Alexander did exactly what yall wanted him to do.

Truth.


Your scouting department did a helluva job. Think they had three options. No idea who the other two were.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Truth.


Your scouting department did a helluva job. Think they had three options. No idea who the other two were.

Ralph Garr doesn't get near enough credit for the Braves run.

 

[PolarVortex]

He did say among the best, not the best. Obviously Hornsby and Joe Morgan has better stretches, but outside of those two Utley’s right there with everyone else.

You have to do it for more than 6 years to be among the best of the best. If you want to say he had one of the best 6-year stretches of all second baseman, I'll give him that. But Utley isn't among the best based on a 6-year run. No way.

He did say among the best, not the best. Obviously Hornsby and Joe Morgan has better stretches, but outside of those two Utley’s right there with everyone else.

Better than Utley:
Robbie Alomar
Jeff Kent
Eddie Collins
Bobby Doerr
Frankie Frisch
Charlie Gehringer
Rogers Hornsby
Joe Morgan
Tony Lazzeri
Jackie Robinson
Ryne Sandberg
Robinson Cano
Craig Biggio
Lou Whitaker
Joe Gordon

 

[broncosmitty]

Ralph Garr doesn't get near enough credit for the Braves run.

He doesn't get credit as a ball player much either.

Did he make the call on the Smoltz deal?

 

[broncosmitty]

You have to do it for more than 6 years to be among the best of the best. If you want to say he had one of the best 6-year stretches of all second baseman, I'll give him that. But Utley isn't among the best based on a 6-year run. No way.

Better than Utley:
Robbie Alomar
Jeff Kent
Eddie Collins
Bobby Doerr
Frankie Frisch
Charlie Gehringer
Rogers Hornsby
Joe Morgan
Tony Lazzeri
Jackie Robinson
Ryne Sandberg
Robinson Cano
Craig Biggio
Lou Whitaker
Joe Gordon

Bobby Grich

 

[Chewbaccer]

He doesn't get credit as a ball player much either.

Did he make the call on the Smoltz deal?

He was our top scout. I assume he told em who to take.

 

[broncosmitty]

He was our top scout. I assume he told em who to take.

I didn't know that.