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How bad is Lloyd McClendon?

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Seriously I've got to ask this question,

Last years success aside, I genuinely feel that he is one of the worst managers the Mariners have had in recent years.

Some of the personnel decisions he has made have been questionable, and never seem to work out. I can't recall a manager who has made me ask "What the fuck is he thinking?" more times than McClendon. I know it is easy to place the blame on the manager when the team sucks, but I really do feel like McClendon hurts this team significantly more than he helps it.

Regardless of if Jack Z is here or not next year, I really hope McClendon is gone.
 

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Not just him but it's a 3-headed circus show man. Ownership, GM, and Manager. Lethal and unsuccessful combination for this shit show.

I lost all faith in him around late May and June when he continually use Walkney in critical situations. He better be gone and so is Jack Z. The "rebuilding" cycles starts all over again.
 

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I think unrealistic bullpen results masked a lot of his bad decisions last year. He still was making stupid lineup decisions last September when they were in hunt. Playing crap like Hart, Smoak and Denorfia just because a lefty was on the mound.

I don't really know what kind of a clubhouse manager he is but his. game managing leaves a lot together desired. Bunting no matter who the next hitter is, basing his lineup/ bullpen decisions on past results, playing Cruz in the field too much, etc. I could go on but yeah he's bad. Not to mention all the mental errors this team makes. Some of that is on the GM for the personnel but this team looks lost in basic situations at times. That's on the coaches.
 

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You know how bad a manager is when the FO grabs him by the balls and demands he throws a few games for whatever reason. Lincoln just LIVES to watch this team fail.
 

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as other said, and as i have said a couple of times on here, no miracle bullpen to make him look competent this year.
 

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Not going to lie, Lloyd had me fooled for a while because of the amazing pen last year. I finally realized that he needed to go when in a game against Oakland in September of last year he threw out a starting lineup that included Smoak, Hart, Denorfia, Morales, and Sucre.

Yep, Lloyd had Corey Hart, in LF, in a game in September, against the team the M's were chasing for the last wild card spot.
 

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Not going to lie, Lloyd had me fooled for a while because of the amazing pen last year. I finally realized that he needed to go when in a game against Oakland in September of last year he threw out a starting lineup that included Smoak, Hart, Denorfia, Morales, and Sucre.

Yep, Lloyd had Corey Hart, in LF, in a game in September, against the team the M's were chasing for the last wild card spot.
Maybe if Hart wore his "Sunglasses at Night"...
 

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Love how lloyd came out bitching to the umpire when he pulled Rodney.
I imaging this is what he SHOULD have been yelling.

"yo, umpire. yeah you, You need to throw my ass out of this game right now. The decision I make to start Rodney in the 8th in a 1-run game was pathetic, I realize that, But I need to bitch at you and make it LOOK LIKE you we making terrible calls, as to take the pressure of me for my stupidity and stubbornness." "Throw me out NOW, dammit."
 

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With a lefty on the mound Lloyd bunts Jackson for Lomo and Miller vs a lefty. His stubbornness and idiciocy knows no boundaries
 

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With a lefty on the mound Lloyd bunts Jackson for Lomo and Miller vs a lefty. His stubbornness and idiciocy knows no boundaries

Nonetheless Jackson fouls out on his bunt attempt.

0 runs scored despite runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs.
 

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Now with Farquhar all over the place he intentionally walks the bases loaded. Not surprisingly the next guy walks and a run comes in. Lloyd is such a gem
 

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I'm starting to be convinced Lloyd manages with a "baseball for dummies" book. Just regard for situational baseball what so ever
 

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I'm starting to be convinced Lloyd manages with a "baseball for dummies" book. Just regard for situational baseball what so ever

But, but, but he was a Little League World Series Hero!!!!

Funny part in the Dombrowski article in which he mentions how he passed over Lloyd for an unproven guy. Ya he is that bad.
 

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L. McL is worse than the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers...
 

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First and second nobody out. What's important to Lloyd??

The batter? Nope
The pitcher? Nope
Whose on deck? Nope
What the score is? Nope
The inning? Nope

It's the baseball book that tells him it's a bunting situation. Well done Lloyd memorize that book front and back. When you are on the unemployment in 6 weeks it will help you tons.
 

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Lloyd seems to throw the book away and play by his own, which is cool if it works. But its not working.
 

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With a lefty on the mound Lloyd bunts Jackson for Lomo and Miller vs a lefty. His stubbornness and idiciocy knows no boundaries

I think his stubbornness is his biggest failure. The constant line up changes, every fucking game, drive me insane.
 
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