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Series Thread: Houston "you have a problem", the Texas Rangers 9/14-17

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De shields hitting too many fly balls still.
 

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Way to quit working him, guys. :L
 

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Wrong. Errors happen. Perez handled it poorly and walked a hitter and grooved fastballs to two more. A big league pitcher doesn't let that get out of control. This inning is on Perez.
I'm not going to argue with you here. The box score reads 1 error on Andrus, 0 Earned Runs Perez.

Blaming a player for not picking up his teammate all while excusing the teammate's initial error is just wrong.

Without the Elvis error, the score reads Texas 1, Houston 0.
 

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He's gonna get in a groove if we give him another inning like that. DeShields is really getting away from what made him so good lately. Not working pitchers as much, and hitting too many fly balls compared to line drives and ground balls.
 

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I'm not going to argue with you here. The box score reads 1 error on Andrus, 0 Earned Runs Perez.

Blaming a player for not picking up his teammate all while excusing the teammate's initial error is just wrong.

Without the Elvis error, the score reads Texas 1, Houston 0.

I don't care whether you agree or not. Perez's job didn't end because Elvis made an error. Just like my job doesn't end because someone else dropped the ball. He did not do his job. Period.
 

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He's gonna get in a groove if we give him another inning like that. DeShields is really getting away from what made him so good lately. Not working pitchers as much, and hitting too many fly balls compared to line drives and ground balls.
Huge momentum change
 

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Great pitch Perez. Let's recapture momentum
 

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Atta boy, Perez. Now get back to work, guys.
 

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I don't care whether you agree or not. Perez's job didn't end because Elvis made an error. Just like my job doesn't end because someone else dropped the ball. He did not do his job. Period.
I never said Perez was without blame. He did do his initial job. He failed to do his job after the error and after he got rattled. So yes he does deserve blame.

But you've got a mentally fragile starter on the mound in a crucial playoff race game. As a fielder, it is your job to be rock solid on defense behind that pitcher and not give him any reason to fall apart. You can't botch a simple ground ball. You just cant. Even not considering the pitcher, giving the Astros another chance to hit a home run in their bandbox ballpark is something you can't do.
 

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He's gonna get in a groove if we give him another inning like that. DeShields is really getting away from what made him so good lately. Not working pitchers as much, and hitting too many fly balls compared to line drives and ground balls.

I agree......he hit one lousy HR and he hasn't been the same since.
 

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Not a strike. Umpire changing his zone.
 

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To me what is a shame is Perez has all the tools to be a dominant pitcher. Especially when he is on. He really needs to be relied upon in tough situations. He is young still hope he keeps improving. Glad we have him. You don't always make it to the playoffs and we need guys to step up as SP. Tough strikeout for Prince
 

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I never said Perez was without blame. He did do his initial job. He failed to do his job after the error and after he got rattled. So yes he does deserve blame.

But you've got a mentally fragile starter on the mound in a crucial playoff race game. As a fielder, it is your job to be rock solid on defense behind that pitcher and not give him any reason to fall apart. You can't botch a simple ground ball. You just cant. Even not considering the pitcher, giving the Astros another chance to hit a home run in their bandbox ballpark is something you can't do.

Easy there, big guy. Nobody is absolving Elvis of any blame.
 

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Pick a fucking side of the plate, blue.
 

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Regardless oft he ridiculous strike zone change we just cannot lose our composure. Just a 1 run game and a win today pretty much guarantees the division crown.
 

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Someone may get thrown out of this game if this ump keeps it up. Widest zone seen in a while. Both ways
 

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Easy there, big guy. Nobody is absolving Elvis of any blame.
Fair enough. That's how your initial post came off, at least to me. And when someone else says that criticizing Elvis is worthless, that's how it comes off.

It's over and done with anyway. We now have a bigger problem with this dogshit umpire suddenly increasing his strike zone to ridiculous levels.
 

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Really need integrity with the zone. Batters are confused when umps are so erratic
 

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Fair enough. That's how your initial post came off, at least to me. And when someone else says that criticizing Elvis is worthless, that's how it comes off.

It's over and done with anyway. We now have a bigger problem with this dogshit umpire suddenly increasing his strike zone to ridiculous levels.

Ok little worth.
 
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