nuraman00
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If Hornacek can be as competent of a coach as Cheeks was, then I think it was a solid hire.
That's my baseline.
That's my baseline.
While he hasn't been an assistant coach for very long, his name has never come up as one that was sought after by other teams.
And teams have been hiring coaches for years, and many didn't interview him. Teams are hiring. Just this offseason, there have been 5 vacancies filled, with five more to go (Detroit, Philadelphia, Memphis, L.A. Clippers, Milwaukee).
Last year, there were four vacancies.
Among the last 14 vacancies, he's had 2 head coaching interviews? Someone other organizations think is good, would have gotten a few more.
Good. He can go coach on another continent, or another planet.
Who cares if the Suns even sweep the Jazz? The goal isn't to compare oneself to one team, it's to compare oneself to 29 other teams.
A team beating another team even if a regular season series doesn't mean they're better overall, it just means they happened to win the majority of 3 or 4 games.
A 15 win team might sweep another team during the regular season, but at the end of the day, they still only had 15 wins.
It's like being glad a player that's traded away is sent to another conference. The goal is to get better the fastest, or help rebuild the fastest, not place all emphasis on a few regular season games next year. That's why I don't compare the teams involved in trades directly; I compare teams relative to all other teams that are either trying to rebuild or contend, depending on what bucket they fall in.
Suns with Hornacek vs. Jazz doesn't matter unless it's in the playoffs, and if both teams are in the playoffs, then there should be more emphasis on the Jazz outlook rather than who the opposing coach is. Milwaukee with Hornacek vs. Jazz just means 1.5 less regular season games.
I think had Hornacek gone through the D-League, or international teams, or college, there would be a greater indicator of what he could do. Right now, he just looks like a cheap hire by teams trying to keep coaching costs down (Charlotte, Phoenix).
Charlotte seems lost. I don't know about this new guy, it just seems like it's not going anywhere, even when they had Larry Brown, etc. You talked about players as coaches, players as owners are no slam dunk either.
nuraman00 said:Good. He can go coach on another continent, or another planet.
If I didn't know you, I'd think you needed to lay off on this hiring. I'm not saying that because I know you know your stuff and love the NBA. I understand the "earn it" part, but alas, he can go coach for Phoenix. Not another continent or planet. Whatever reason he was hired wouldn't change my opinion of the hire. I'm happy for him because I don't care who coaches for Phoenix. I did say that I wasn't pulling for him to coach here, just more than Corbin.
I was just trying to be funny, and it came off too strongly.
Funny thing is, I don't think I would have reacted if you had said, "I can't believe the Suns management isn't looking for someone more experienced." It was the same thing as you said, as "cheap hire" is pointed at management. It just felt that it was pointed at Hornacek.
As for the "planet" joke, there were 2 things to look at:
1. One is the standard exaggeration that happens on message boards. If I say he shot it from the Rocky Mountains, the next person will say he shot it from the ionosphere.
I say "country", then I juxtapose it with "planet" to show the next level of exaggeration.
2. Aliens (and therefore by inference, foreign planets) have been discussed between us lately. For example, those books with about the alien teacher. So that was the other connection I was trying to draw.
According to the YouTube author, "Malone took exception to the manner in which Byron Scott separated Jazz guard John Crotty and Nets forward Kenyon Martin -- who were involved in a scrum for a loose ball on the floor (1:07-mark) . Malone responded by firmly guiding/pushing Scott back towards the New Jersey bench, resulting in Dick Bavetta, Jerry Sloan and the cavalry rushing in to separate everyone before the situation could escalate further.
The incident appeared to incite Malone - who erupted in the 3rd-qtr. In a 5-min stretch, Malone exploded for 12 points including a:
-facial dunk on Todd McCullough (1:59-mark)
-3pt-play over Keith Van Horn (2:33-mark)
-fastbreak hammer dunk (2:42-mark)
-3pt-play off pick&roll (3:00-mark)"
Malone was defending a teammate. Not sure if it was necessary, just saying it wasn't him defending himself after a coach thinking he did something dirty. With Malone, that could have been the reason. In this case, it wasn't.
Ahh, some familiar faces that make me feel like home. John Crotty, Keith Van Horn...
Based on the video, Scott has a right to dislike Malone, he was guilty, too. I can't say he's more or less guilty, because I don't know what was said or done, the video doesn't show it. He likely responded to something Scott said, but take for instance, if what Scott had said was the heartless comment and that sparked it, Scott can't be excused from the heartless comment because that would have come before the heat of the confrontation. But just as he can dislike Malone, I have a right to dislike Scott and not want him as our coach. His comments about coat-tail riding came in the press conference.