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I agree with that. I guess that proves my EOY rankings theory to have some holes in it, but you can't anticipate that when you make the schedule 10 years before they even play the game. I'm sure Alabama was pissed they still had FSU on the schedule in 2025 and 2026 up until this year. It was about to be a waste of a series
There are NO guarantees in scheduling.. but, as they say "Past is prologue." If you want to see what is going to happen in the future just look at history. Over the past 15 season here are the winning %'s of the 65 P5 teams:

1 Alabama 0.8990
2 Ohio State 0.8564
3 Clemson 0.7961
4 Oklahoma 0.7828
5 Georgia 0.7673
6 Oregon 0.7513
7 Louisiana State 0.7268
8 Wisconsin 0.7128
9 Oklahoma State 0.7113
10 Notre Dame 0.7031
11 Texas Christian 0.6979
12 Penn State 0.6895
13 Utah 0.6825
14 Florida State 0.6736
15 Southern Cal 0.6720
16 Florida 0.6580
17 Michigan State 0.6579
18 Iowa 0.6545
19 Michigan 0.6417
19 Stanford 0.6417
21 Texas A&M 0.6138
22 Texas 0.6105
23 Auburn 0.6062
24 Virginia Tech 0.6051
25 Kansas State 0.6000
26 Pittsburgh 0.5876
27 Miami-Florida 0.5873
28 West Virginia 0.5851
29 Baylor 0.5842
30 Missouri 0.5812
31 Washington 0.5806
32 South Carolina 0.5707
33 Louisville 0.5684
34 Mississippi State 0.5654
35 North Carolina State 0.5632
36 Nebraska 0.5532
37 North Carolina 0.5521
38 Mississippi 0.5430
39 Minnesota 0.5376
40 Northwestern 0.5348
41 Texas Tech 0.5294
42 Arizona State 0.5220
43 Tennessee 0.5161
44 UCLA 0.5135
45 Georgia Tech 0.5132
46 Kentucky 0.4947
47 Wake Forest 0.4839
47 Arkansas 0.4839
49 Boston College 0.4734
50 Arizona 0.4670
51 Duke 0.4599
52 California 0.4551
53 Washington State 0.4365
53 Oregon State 0.4365
55 Iowa State 0.4278
56 Maryland 0.4278
57 Rutgers 0.4270
58 Syracuse 0.4239
59 Virginia 0.4088
60 Purdue 0.3923
61 Illinois 0.3812
62 Indiana 0.3799
63 Vanderbilt 0.3770
64 Colorado 0.3427
65 Kansas 0.2346

The higher the team is in the table the greater the likelihood of that team being ranked in the future.
 

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I'm not seeing the connection between being a coward with scheduling and the amount of conference away games they played against ranked opponents. It's one thing to avoid tough OOC competition, but Boise was still Boise in that time and why would they agree to play a 1 and done against a powerhouse? If they lost, they were immediately dismissed as not being worthy of playing against the big boys and if they won, everyone called it a fluke.

Take their 2011 season for example. They traveled to Georgia, played the then ranked 19 Bulldogs, beat them and only moved up from #5 to #4. They lost to TCU that year by one point, and then got put in the goddamn Las Vegas Bowl despite their #9 ranking. They had no benefit to playing those games but they still played: @ Washington, @ Oregon, "Neutral" games vs. Georgia and VaTech, @ Michigan State. Plus multiple games against other power 5 regional opponents.
Wow, that from an FSU fan? That's how Bobby Bowden put FSU on the map. He was willing to play OU, Nebraska etc at their stadiums. Here is a list of one-way games FSU played between 1976 (BB's 1st year) and 1990. Actually 2 games were returned sort of.

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Wow, that from an FSU fan? That's how Bobby Bowden put FSU on the map. He was willing to play OU, Nebraska etc at their stadiums. Here is a list of one-way games FSU played between 1976 (BB's 1st year) and 1990. Actually 2 games were returned sort of.

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I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying, I just also enjoy playing Devil's advocate from time to time and trying to see the other side of it.

With that being said, the big difference I see compared to Boise State, besides the era being different, is that Florida State was Independent and could realistically schedule any team they wanted (can't confirm, wasn't alive for another 16 years after the first year on this list)
 

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I'm not seeing the connection between being a coward with scheduling and the amount of conference away games they played against ranked opponents. It's one thing to avoid tough OOC competition, but Boise was still Boise in that time and why would they agree to play a 1 and done against a powerhouse? If they lost, they were immediately dismissed as not being worthy of playing against the big boys and if they won, everyone called it a fluke.

Take their 2011 season for example. They traveled to Georgia, played the then ranked 19 Bulldogs, beat them and only moved up from #5 to #4. They lost to TCU that year by one point, and then got put in the goddamn Las Vegas Bowl despite their #9 ranking. They had no benefit to playing those games but they still played: @ Washington, @ Oregon, "Neutral" games vs. Georgia and VaTech, @ Michigan State. Plus multiple games against other power 5 regional opponents.
My point is that a team should have to play "somebody" in away games. If you don't have a "somebody" IN your conference then play them OOC. BSU played in a conference that was so bad that BSU could only play 2 ranked teams in 63 conference games (1 home and 1 away). That's basically 8 wins every year for a "good team".

"Plus multiple games against other power 5 regional opponents."??
In the eight year Petersen was at BSU they did in fact play Washington 2x (both away), Oregon 2x (H&A), UGa once in Atlanta, VT 1x in Landover, MD, and @ Michigan State (7-6 and lost). The "Plus multiple games against other power 5 regional opponents." consisted of 2 games vs Oregon State both in Boise. That's 9 games in 8 seasons vs P5 teams (only 6 were ranked). Plus 2 more ranked teams in conference for a total of 8 ranked teams in 8 seasons Why are you content with allowing BSU to play a one games season every year???
 

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I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying, I just also enjoy playing Devil's advocate from time to time and trying to see the other side of it.

With that being said, the big difference I see compared to Boise State, besides the era being different, is that Florida State was Independent and could realistically schedule any team they wanted (can't confirm, wasn't alive for another 16 years after the first year on this list)
WOW!!! Yes, FSU was an IND for those games. They joined the ACC the year you were born.
 

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That's what it is but they should have given the money to Akron U instead. Yeah I'm biased.
Could have something to do with the YSU president?? Just a guess.
 

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Could have something to do with the YSU president?? Just a guess.

Shit forgot about Tressel, thought he retired as YSU's president a few years ago but he just retired earlier this month.
 

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I'm disappointed in Ohio State's OOC schedule.

Youngstown State (FCS) & W. Kentucky. Don't mind the WKU game, at least they're FBS. Don't like the YSU game.

Only good thing is at least they get some games in before playing N.D. in South Bend.

Pretty shitty... what are they replacing the UW games with?

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Hey, anybody willing to take on the Campbell Camels has got a brass set, man
Many years ago my Dad and I drove about 3 hours to Campbell University just to get apparel that said “Fighting Camels” on it, worth.
 

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