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don't know about anyone else but I was very glad to see Weiss canned. financially the worst coach in irish history and one of the worst coaches i'v ever seen.
I assume you mean financially from ND's perspective. Weis is actually making a very good living NOT coaching. And I believe he will still be on the ND payroll through 2015. All based on the strength of almost beating USC in 2005. Just goes to show how far the program has fallen and how desperate it was. Another fun fact, (well I think it's a fact, not sure but I believe I heard it elsewhere), ND paid Weis more this year than it's paying Kelly. What a travesty.
But this is like hating someone because they won the lottery. No one forced ND and/or Kansas to sign those contracts. While he's not a good coach, he sure can negotiate a contract. Hopefully we learned a lesson from this, and won't make the same mistake again.
But this is like hating someone because they won the lottery. No one forced ND and/or Kansas to sign those contracts. While he's not a good coach, he sure can negotiate a contract. Hopefully we learned a lesson from this, and won't make the same mistake again.
We all have our feelings about Weis as a coach, and how he never matched the hype, and as evidenced by his inability to succeed even at a place like Kansas tells us all we need to know about his ability to be a Head Coach at a major Div. 1 program, but its not his fault these programs kept handing him bags with dollar signs on them. That's on ND, and in particular, Swarbrick's predecessor, Kevin White, and on Kansas' AD. Weis was able to sell himself for that much money, with us he could market his Superbowl rings, and making Tom Brady an elite star, with the added bonus of being an ND alum. He had relatively decent success his first couple of years which was fools gold when the cupboard went bare. While he was able to recruit well at skill positions, he was never able to assemble much defensive talent, especially on the DL, and was a lousy developer of talent once he got them here, hence the progressive decline. The rate of return on recruiting started to slip as well. I don't think he'll be able to fool another major program into a head coaching gig. He might still be able to sell himself as an OC in college or pros, but nobody's going to give him the keys to the car.
But I agree, the vitrol against him for taking the money seems unfair. If anyone offered us that kind of money, I doubt we'd take the high road and say, your know what, in retrospect I didn't deserve it. Here, have the money back while I try to figure out how to get hired somewhere else to feed my family. Its not unlike Mike Golic's outstanding defense of ND in 2012 to Rick Reilly's hit peice on ND and how it doesn't DESERVE its TV contract or any other attention it gets. Blame those giving to them, not ND for taking what is given.
A lot of people thought Kelly would be the same and as of right now I feel we hit a home run with Kelly. He finally has the team he has been waiting for. Next year should really be a big year. This team is young and fast.
Don't know about home run, but he did bring much needed stability to the the program, and he is building a solid foundation. He has some proclivities that may be holding the program back, and he's already shown he has higher aspirations, so there's always a lingering threat he will bolt, but for the first time in a long time, there's starting to be quality depth at almost every position, team speed is definitely improved across the board, and I think he's had great success in recent coaching hires in Harry Heistand and Brian VanGorder. His gameday approach baffles me sometimes, but his program CEO skills are among the elite.
well .... if kelly DOES leave, what does anyone think about vangorder as a replacement?
I have had some questions as to whether BK can lead us to the promised land, but thank God that snot-nosed fat fuck aint on the sidelines anymore. BK may or may not get us back to glory but that worthless piece of shit sure would not have. Pisses me off just thinking about that sumbitch.
He already took us to the promise land.