Brady admits to being a fraud

[black francis]

Tom Brady doesn't think Tom Brady is that good of a quarterback

 

[Rock Strongo]

hi frank.

 

[Oldschool739]

Tom Brady doesn't think Tom Brady is that good of a quarterback

And he's right, BB is that good of a coach and that is the house that built Tom Brady....

 

[RP-29]

"I'm really a product of what I've been around, who I was coached by, what I played against, in the era I played in. I really believe if a lot of people were in my shoes they could accomplish the same kinds of things. So I've been very fortunate."

Humility pie or the truth?

A lot of people have said about him exactly what he said about himself. Personally, I think the player, the coach and the team were a perfect match. The result of that perfect match is two decades of Superbowl contention and a handful of rings. I'm unconvinced Tom could've replicated that success on another team.

 

[black francis]

hi frank.

Hi Rock

 

[Center Ice]

"I'm really a product of what I've been around, who I was coached by, what I played against, in the era I played in. I really believe if a lot of people were in my shoes they could accomplish the same kinds of things. So I've been very fortunate."

Humility pie or the truth?

A lot of people have said about him exactly what he said about himself. Personally, I think the player, the coach and the team were a perfect match. The result of that perfect match is two decades of Superbowl contention and a handful of rings. I'm unconvinced Tom could've replicated that success on another team.

I think that can be said about a lot of players. A super star QB with all the talent in the world will die on a team with a dud coach and a poor draft ethic. I think Tom described most NFL players perfectly.

 

[Rock Strongo]

"I'm really a product of what I've been around, who I was coached by, what I played against, in the era I played in. I really believe if a lot of people were in my shoes they could accomplish the same kinds of things. So I've been very fortunate."

Humility pie or the truth?

A lot of people have said about him exactly what he said about himself. Personally, I think the player, the coach and the team were a perfect match. The result of that perfect match is two decades of Superbowl contention and a handful of rings. I'm unconvinced Tom could've replicated that success on another team.

and could peyton have in cleveland?

or marino in AZ?

or montana in say, chicago?

we can debate all day...

 

[PatsFan2003]

Yeah look at Matt Cassel...

Hall of Famer for sure.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Yeah look at Matt Cassel...

Hall of Famer for sure.

ryan mallet, mike oconnell...mike bishop, etc etc

 

[RP-29]

and could peyton have in cleveland?

or marino in AZ?

or montana in say, chicago?

we can debate all day...

Honestly, I think Peyton could have had similar success in Cleveland. As it was, he carried a garbage Colts team to contention every year.

I think Montana could have easily won in Chicago because they had Sweetness a wicked defense in the '80s. Put him on the '80s Bucs and he never comes close to the legendary status he has now.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Honestly, I think Peyton could have had similar success in Cleveland. As it was, he carried a garbage Colts team to contention every year.

I think Montana could have easily won in Chicago because they had Sweetness a wicked defense in the '80s. Put him on the '80s Bucs and he never comes close to the legendary status he has now.

yeah but he had harrison and wayne. thats my point.

 

[RP-29]

yeah but he had harrison and wayne. thats my point.

It's really difficult to determine cause/effect with that comparison. Did Harrison and Wayne make Manning larger than real life or did Manning's greatness make his receivers larger than real life. There's probably a little bit of both in there, but my perception is that Manning had a greater impact on his receivers' productivity than his receivers did on his productivity.

The Marino-Clayton-Duper trio were a similar lot. And similar to Manning's Colts, Marino's Dolphins never really had the complete team necessary to win a Superbowl, but Marino was good enough to drive an overall average team into the playoffs every year.

 

[Rock Strongo]

It's really difficult to determine cause/effect with that comparison. Did Harrison and Wayne make Manning larger than real life or did Manning's greatness make his receivers larger than real life. There's probably a little bit of both in there, but my perception is that Manning had a greater impact on his receivers' productivity than his receivers did on his productivity.

The Marino-Clayton-Duper trio were a similar lot. And similar to Manning's Colts, Marino's Dolphins never really had the complete team necessary to win a Superbowl, but Marino was good enough to drive an overall average team into the playoffs every year.

both were high first rounders.
im not going down this road, but how many first round picks (team drafted) did brady ever have at WR? shit, gimme a second rounder...

and kudos on the marino/duper/clayton deal.

duper was a 2nd rounder, clayton an eight.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

And he's right, BB is that good of a coach and that is the house that built Tom Brady....

Be careful. That is dangerously close to "Brady is a system QB"


And from there, your credibility sinks to a place from which it never returns.

.

 

[RP-29]

both were high first rounders.
im not going down this road, but how many first round picks (team drafted) did brady ever have at WR? shit, gimme a second rounder...

and kudos on the marino/duper/clayton deal.

duper was a 2nd rounder, clayton an eight.

Credit NE management for realizing that burning high picks on offensive skill positions rarely results in championships.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

Let me just square this for all concerned.

Brady is 5th all time in attempts. And yet he is 2nd all time in TD/Int ratio with 456 TD's to 152 Ints
Rodgers is first but he has just over half the attempts.



That is not Belichick

 

[jarntt]

Damn...I hate when Brady makes it hard to dislike him. Can't he hide another phone or do that little girly water slide pose again or something? Damn classy, humble bastard!!!

 

[RP-29]

Let me just square this for all concerned.

Brady is 5th all time in attempts. And yet he is 2nd all time in TD/Int ratio with 456 TD's to 152 Ints
Rodgers is first but he has just over half the attempts.



That is not just Belichick

Fixed for enhanced accuracy.

 

[Oldschool739]

Be careful. That is dangerously close to "Brady is a system QB"


And from there, your credibility sinks to a place from which it never returns.

.

Read the article, he said so himself...

 

[R.J. MacReady]

Read the article, he said so himself...

It's funny how NOW everybody wants to believe what he says ....