Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - Quarterfinals - #1 Cam Newton vs #9 Tim Tebow

[iowajerms]

Seeds are from Ranking the Heisman Trophy Winners of the BCS Era on NFL and CFB Success

*Bush is not included on the list, so I put him at #16. Completes the bracket. Ranking is also by their CFB and NFL careers, but it is the best list I found.

Vote solely based on their Heisman winning season.

This Week (Wed-Sun)

This Thread - Quarterfinals - #1 seed Cam Newton (2010) vs #9 seed Tim Tebow (2007)
Other Thread - Consolation First Round - #8 seed Robert Griffin III (2011) vs #16 seed Reggie Bush (2005, vacated)

No repeat matchups in this bracket (winner of 1st matchup wins). Loser of semis goes for 3rd.
Higher seed wins tie breaker.

Spoiler: Past Matchups

Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #1 Cam Newton vs #16 Reggie Bush
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #8 Robert Griffin III vs #9 Tim Tebow
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #5 Carson Palmer vs #12 Chris Wienke
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #4 Jameis Winston vs #13 Mark Ingram\
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #3 Sam Bradford vs #14 Eric Crouch
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #6 Johnny Manziel vs #11 Troy Smith
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #7 Ron Dayne vs #10 Matt Leinart
Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - #2 Ricky Williams vs #15 Jason White

 

[iowajerms]

 

[iowajerms]

This one is actually tough for me. I think Newton was a more natural athlete and is harder to stop, but nobody put their heart into it like Tebow.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Tebow was the stronger collegiate leader in my opinion, but Newton was the stronger/better playmaker on a worse team in my opinion and thus the more deserving heisman winner.

Realistically, Newton will probably win this whole thing.

 

[iowajerms]

Tebow was the stronger collegiate leader in my opinion, but Newton was the stronger/better playmaker on a worse team in my opinion and thus the more deserving heisman winner.

Realistically, Newton will probably win this whole thing.

I would say Tebow was on a worse team.

Florida went 9-4 that year and only 3 SEC teams had double digit wins and Florida went 1-2 vs them. Auburn went 14-0 and were NCs the year Newton won. SEC had 4 teams with double digit wins, all in that same division.

But I would agree that Newton was the better natural athlete between the two.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Any answer other than Cam is wrong.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

I would say Tebow was on a worse team.

Florida went 9-4 that year and only 3 SEC teams had double digit wins and Florida went 1-2 vs them. Auburn went 14-0 and were NCs the year Newton won. SEC had 4 teams with double digit wins, all in that same division.

But I would agree that Newton was the better natural athlete between the two.

Sure, but without Cam Auburn wins what? 3 or 4 games that year?

 

[The Q]

I would say Tebow was on a worse team.

Florida went 9-4 that year and only 3 SEC teams had double digit wins and Florida went 1-2 vs them. Auburn went 14-0 and were NCs the year Newton won. SEC had 4 teams with double digit wins, all in that same division.

But I would agree that Newton was the better natural athlete between the two.

How many NFL players, or even guys drafted by the NFL were on that auburn team?

The TE and LT were both like 7th round picks.

Was anyone else on that O even drafted?

And that comeback against Bama was simply amazing. The stuff of legend.

The Florida team was loaded with NFL talent.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

I am probably exaggerating when I say 3 or 4, but they won 7 of those games by one possession. And I would venture to guess they would have lost more than that without him.

 

[4down20]

If you go by the qualities the Heisman is supposed to represent, I don't see how it can be anyone but Tebow.

 

[4down20]

Tebow was the stronger collegiate leader in my opinion, but Newton was the stronger/better playmaker on a worse team in my opinion and thus the more deserving heisman winner.

Realistically, Newton will probably win this whole thing.

Florida fell apart after Tebow left.

Newton was actually supposed to be the Florida QB for Florida after Tebow, but got kicked off the team for stealing laptops. And then of course, there is the whole thing with getting paid to go to Auburn and the scandal all year long.

And that is what you consider best Heisman?

Seems to me you are just taking the easy way and looking at the NFL results without any context on the actual season.

 

[The Q]

Florida fell apart after Tebow left.

Newton was actually supposed to be the Florida QB for Florida after Tebow, but got kicked off the team for stealing laptops. And then of course, there is the whole thing with getting paid to go to Auburn and the scandal all year long.

And that is what you consider best Heisman?

Seems to me you are just taking the easy way and looking at the NFL results without any context on the actual season.

Newton was the better player. And did it with less talent around him.

Far less really.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Florida fell apart after Tebow left.

Newton was actually supposed to be the Florida QB for Florida after Tebow, but got kicked off the team for stealing laptops. And then of course, there is the whole thing with getting paid to go to Auburn and the scandal all year long.

And that is what you consider best Heisman?

Seems to me you are just taking the easy way and looking at the NFL results without any context on the actual season.

Except that after Tebow left Florida dropped to 8-5 and then 7-6. After Cam left Auburn went 8-5 and then 3-9. So I would say that Auburn fell apart a little more than Florida.


And no, I am not considering the NFL at all. Cam is by far the better athlete. Look at Auburns schedule, the results, then remembmer how big of a difference Cam made and you think Auburn wins even half? I am taking context of the actual season, actually... the argument should be that THAT is the only part I placed into proper Heisman context because Tebow was clearly the more mature and displayed more integrity.

Cam > Tebow. Nuff said.

 

[iowajerms]

How many NFL players, or even guys drafted by the NFL were on that auburn team?

The TE and LT were both like 7th round picks.

Was anyone else on that O even drafted?

And that comeback against Bama was simply amazing. The stuff of legend.

The Florida team was loaded with NFL talent.

Neither had much around them.

According to Wikipedia

2007 Florida

QB - Tim Tebow - 1st round, 2010 NFL Draft
RB - Kehstahn Moore - undrafted
WR - Andre Caldwell - 3rd round, 2008 NFL Draft
WR - Louis Murphy - 4th round, 2009 NFL Draft
WR - Percy Harvin - 1st round, 2009 NFL Draft
TE - Cornelius Ingram - 5th round, 2009 NFL Draft
LT - Phil Trautwein - undrafted
LG - Jim Tartt - undrafted
C - Drew Miller - undrafted
RG - Carlton Medder - undrafted
RT - Jason Watkins - undrafted

2010 Auburn

QB - Cam Newton - 1st round, 2011 NFL Draft
RB - Michael Dryer - undrafted
WR - Tyrell Zachery - undrafted
WR - Darvin Adams - undrafted
WR - Kodi Burns - undrafted
TE - Philip Lutzenkirchen - undrafted
LT - Lee Ziemba - 7th round, 2011 NFL Draft
LG - Mike Berry - undrafted
C - Ryan Pugh - undrafted
RG - Byron Isom - undrafted
RT - Brandon Mosley - 4th round, 2012 NFL Draft

 

[The Q]

Neither had much around them.

According to Wikipedia

2007 Florida

QB - Tim Tebow - 1st round, 2010 NFL Draft
RB - Kehstahn Moore - undrafted
WR - Andre Caldwell - 3rd round, 2008 NFL Draft
WR - Louis Murphy - 4th round, 2009 NFL Draft
TE - Cornelius Ingram - 5th round, 2009 NFL Draft
LT - Phil Trautwein - undrafted
LG - Jim Tartt - undrafted
C - Drew Miller - undrafted
RG - Carlton Medder - undrafted
RT - Jason Watkins - undrafted

2010 Auburn

QB - Cam Newton - 1st round, 2011 NFL Draft
RB - Michael Dryer - undrafted
WR - Tyrell Zachery - undrafted
WR - Darvin Adams - undrafted
WR - Kodi Burns - undrafted
TE - Philip Lutzenkirchen - undrafted
LT - Lee Ziemba - 7th round, 2011 NFL Draft
LG - Mike Berry - undrafted
C - Ryan Pugh - undrafted
RG - Byron Isom - undrafted
RT - Brandon Mosley - 4th round, 2012 NFL Draft

Percy Harvin is a pretty big piece of leave off of florida's list.

Also, totally forgot about Mosley. But damn, that has to be the worst offense (NFL talent wise) for a BCS champ.

 

[iowajerms]

Percy Harvin is a pretty big piece of leave off of florida's list.

Also, totally forgot about Mosley. But damn, that has to be the worst offense (NFL talent wise) for a BCS champ.

Thanks, I did miss that. I will say that Florida's defense was loaded with guys that would go on to be NFL draftees. Auburn's starting line-up had a few.

 

[The Q]

Thanks, I did miss that.

No worries.

Just wanted to point it out cause it's probably the swing vote on these two abysmal supporting casts.

But I knew something was missing. So I clicked the link and saw harvin and was like "doh! obviously Harvin was there"

 

[4down20]

Newton was the better player. And did it with less talent around him.

Far less really.

That's not what the Heisman is.

 

[The Q]

That's not what the Heisman is.

Most Outstanding Player.

Being the better player with a far inferior cast is most outstanding.

 

[4down20]

Neither had much around them.

According to Wikipedia

2007 Florida

QB - Tim Tebow - 1st round, 2010 NFL Draft
RB - Kehstahn Moore - undrafted
WR - Andre Caldwell - 3rd round, 2008 NFL Draft
WR - Louis Murphy - 4th round, 2009 NFL Draft
WR - Percy Harvin - 1st round, 2009 NFL Draft
TE - Cornelius Ingram - 5th round, 2009 NFL Draft
LT - Phil Trautwein - undrafted
LG - Jim Tartt - undrafted
C - Drew Miller - undrafted
RG - Carlton Medder - undrafted
RT - Jason Watkins - undrafted

2010 Auburn

QB - Cam Newton - 1st round, 2011 NFL Draft
RB - Michael Dryer - undrafted
WR - Tyrell Zachery - undrafted
WR - Darvin Adams - undrafted
WR - Kodi Burns - undrafted
TE - Philip Lutzenkirchen - undrafted
LT - Lee Ziemba - 7th round, 2011 NFL Draft
LG - Mike Berry - undrafted
C - Ryan Pugh - undrafted
RG - Byron Isom - undrafted
RT - Brandon Mosley - 4th round, 2012 NFL Draft

Do the defenses. Auburn's defense had guys like Nick Fairley on it.