Another top 20

[Inquisitor95]

Why is the #4 team in the SEC West who just lost their Heisman QB and 2 other first rounders ranked #11?

isn't the "gauntlet" of Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, and Kentucky going to tear them up?

It's the team that Johnny built.

 

[7Samurai13]

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I am not so sure about USC. Michigan State was gutted on defense and that is their identity. I am sure that is low at all. Auburn won a lot of close games. Some would say they won a couple on abject luck. It is not hard to believe that they lose a couple of those this year. List their best OL by far. The defense is still a huge question mark. I like them closer to 10 than 1, until I see some improvement. I disagreed with Clemson. This is a straight mathematical formula, so there will be a few anomalies

Michigan State's offense will be much better having the spring and starting off the season knowing who their QB is going to be. The defense will take a step back I believe. Dennard is someone that just can't be replaced easily for Michigan State who does not have the best recruiting classes. A lot of the rest of the defense was more of a plug and play, next man up so it should be interesting to see what they can do. Only one Michigan State player was drafted so obviously the NFL didn't think much of one of the top 5 defenses over the last 4 years.

 

[Codaxx]

Michigan State's offense will be much better having the spring and starting off the season knowing who their QB is going to be. The defense will take a step back I believe. Dennard is someone that just can't be replaced easily for Michigan State who does not have the best recruiting classes. A lot of the rest of the defense was more of a plug and play, next man up so it should be interesting to see what they can do. Only one Michigan State player was drafted so obviously the NFL didn't think much of one of the top 5 defenses over the last 4 years.

I really like Narduzzi and think he should be up for a big job. I would expect a couple early lessons though for the defense, before they click. I just dont see it as a big call to expect a little slide out of MSU, especially considering last yr was their best yr in a long time, return only 11 starters (4 on defense), and they are not quite at the recruiting level where they just throw the next 4-5 star in.

 

[7Samurai13]

I really like Narduzzi and think he should be up for a big job. I would expect a couple early lessons though for the defense, before they click. I just dont see it as a big call to expect a little slide out of MSU, especially considering last yr was their best yr in a long time, return only 11 starters (4 on defense), and they are not quite at the recruiting level where they just throw the next 4-5 star in.

I expect a big slide in the defense and a moderate uptick in the offense. That being said, last year was a joke of a schedule. No OSU, Wisconsin, or Penn State. 8-4 to 9-3 is what I am expecting, hinging on what we do against Oregon.

 

[Codaxx]

I expect a big slide in the defense and a moderate uptick in the offense. That being said, last year was a joke of a schedule. No OSU, Wisconsin, or Penn State. 8-4 to 9-3 is what I am expecting, hinging on what we do against Oregon.

that would probably mean the ranking is high if anything in your view. That is why I posted it. MSU is lower here than most pre-season polls and here you are agreeing with it

 

[bigred472]

Rk Team Conf Proj.
S&P+ Feb.
Proj. Chg. 2013 Rk. Proj. Chg. Proj. Off.
S&P+ Rk Proj. Def.
S&P+ Rk1 Florida State ACC 275.6 2 1 1 0 131.7 1 143.9 1
2 Alabama SEC 263.5 1 -1 2 0 125.2 6 138.4 2
3 Oregon Pac-12 242.1 3 0 10 7 126.6 4 115.6 23
4 Ohio State Big Ten 238.0 10 6 11 7 126.6 3 111.4 31
5 Clemson ACC 237.4 14 9 6 1 115.4 12 122.0 12
6 Stanford Pac-12 237.4 6 0 4 -2 112.9 17 124.5 8
7 South Carolina SEC 237.4 4 -3 12 5 119.6 10 117.9 19
8 Auburn SEC 235.6 12 4 7 -1 124.7 7 110.8 33
9 USC Pac-12 235.3 11 2 13 4 101.4 48 134.0 5
10 Georgia SEC 234.7 8 -2 17 7 120.8 9 113.9 26
11 Texas A&M SEC 234.7 7 -4 18 7 129.0 2 105.7 48
12 LSU SEC 233.4 5 -7 19 7 116.9 11 116.5 21
13 Michigan State Big Ten 233.4 13 0 8 -5 96.4 61 137.0 3
14 Baylor Big 12 233.3 25 11 3 -11 125.3 5 108.0 40
15 Wisconsin Big Ten 231.4 19 4 9 -6 111.8 20 119.6 18
16 Louisville ACC 230.6 20 4 5 -11 110.2 24 120.4 15
17 Oklahoma Big 12 230.5 9 -8 24 7 110.8 23 119.6 17
18 Oklahoma State Big 12 228.7 16 -2 15 -3 105.8 33 122.9 10
19 Virginia Tech ACC 226.5 22 3 21 2 91.1 83 135.4 4
20 UCLA Pac-12 226.0 15 -5 22 2 112.7 18 113.3 28
21 Arizona State Pac-12 224.1 28 7 16 -5 115.3 13 108.8 37
22 Missouri SEC 223.9 31 9 14 -8 108.6 28 115.3 24
23 Boise State MWC 223.1 18 -5 38 15 107.0 29 116.1 22
24 Ole Miss SEC 222.6 26 2 29 5 100.7 50 121.9 13
25 Notre Dame Ind 221.7 17 -8 34 9 112.2 19 109.5 35

from football study hall... It is a bit different from what we have seen..

2014 College football rankings: Updated S&P+ projections - Football Study Hall

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IMO:


A&M--too high considering who they lost (JM)
South Carolina--they always seem to start in the TOP 10 and then implode and lose at least two games (most of which they shouldn't)
USC--really? New coach and all? Way too high
Oklahoma--I'm biased they're my second most favorite team BUT they too low
UCLA--Again, lower than they should be.

 

[7Samurai13]

that would probably mean the ranking is high if anything in your view. That is why I posted it. MSU is lower here than most pre-season polls and here you are agreeing with it

I do believe that at year's end they will be in the 20's for rankings. But again, I am a pessimist and would like to be pleasantly surprised, rather than expecting another top 5 finish and up 25.

 

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[MarkOU]

Rk Team Conf Proj.
S&P+ Feb.
Proj. Chg. 2013 Rk. Proj. Chg. Proj. Off.
S&P+ Rk Proj. Def.
S&P+ Rk1 Florida State ACC 275.6 2 1 1 0 131.7 1 143.9 1
2 Alabama SEC 263.5 1 -1 2 0 125.2 6 138.4 2
3 Oregon Pac-12 242.1 3 0 10 7 126.6 4 115.6 23
4 Ohio State Big Ten 238.0 10 6 11 7 126.6 3 111.4 31
5 Clemson ACC 237.4 14 9 6 1 115.4 12 122.0 12
6 Stanford Pac-12 237.4 6 0 4 -2 112.9 17 124.5 8
7 South Carolina SEC 237.4 4 -3 12 5 119.6 10 117.9 19
8 Auburn SEC 235.6 12 4 7 -1 124.7 7 110.8 33
9 USC Pac-12 235.3 11 2 13 4 101.4 48 134.0 5
10 Georgia SEC 234.7 8 -2 17 7 120.8 9 113.9 26
11 Texas A&M SEC 234.7 7 -4 18 7 129.0 2 105.7 48
12 LSU SEC 233.4 5 -7 19 7 116.9 11 116.5 21
13 Michigan State Big Ten 233.4 13 0 8 -5 96.4 61 137.0 3
14 Baylor Big 12 233.3 25 11 3 -11 125.3 5 108.0 40
15 Wisconsin Big Ten 231.4 19 4 9 -6 111.8 20 119.6 18
16 Louisville ACC 230.6 20 4 5 -11 110.2 24 120.4 15
17 Oklahoma Big 12 230.5 9 -8 24 7 110.8 23 119.6 17
18 Oklahoma State Big 12 228.7 16 -2 15 -3 105.8 33 122.9 10
19 Virginia Tech ACC 226.5 22 3 21 2 91.1 83 135.4 4
20 UCLA Pac-12 226.0 15 -5 22 2 112.7 18 113.3 28
21 Arizona State Pac-12 224.1 28 7 16 -5 115.3 13 108.8 37
22 Missouri SEC 223.9 31 9 14 -8 108.6 28 115.3 24
23 Boise State MWC 223.1 18 -5 38 15 107.0 29 116.1 22
24 Ole Miss SEC 222.6 26 2 29 5 100.7 50 121.9 13
25 Notre Dame Ind 221.7 17 -8 34 9 112.2 19 109.5 35

from football study hall... It is a bit different from what we have seen..

2014 College football rankings: Updated S&P+ projections - Football Study Hall

Top 4 was looking good then it just went to shit.

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