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2013 16-team BCS Playoff.

PhilSimms11

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If you are in the BCS top-25 and a conference champion you receive an automatic spot. Of the 10 conference champs 3 would not qualify--Bowling Green (10-3), UL-Lafayette (8-4), and Rice (10-3). I also forbid same conference matchups in the 1st round if possible. I switched Clemson and Oklahoma to avoid an OU-Baylor game. I know it will always be a dream or won't happen until way on down the road. I can only hope sooner than later. :hope:

1)*Florida St (13-0) vs 16)*Fresno St (11-1)
8)Missouri (11-2) vs 9)Oregon (10-2)

4)*Michigan St (12-1) vs 13)Oklahoma St (10-2)
5)*Stanford (11-2) vs 12)Oklahoma (10-2)

2)*Auburn (12-1) vs 15)*UCF (11-1)
7)Ohio St (12-1) vs 10)So Carolina (10-2)

3)Alabama (11-1) vs 14)Arizona St (10-3)
6)*Baylor (11-1) vs 11)Clemson (10-2)
(*)conference champion
 

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BCS > 4 team playoff > 16 team playoff
 

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The BCS has sucked since its inception, so no it is not greater than a playoff.

By definition, the BCS is a playoff. A 2 team playoff. And it has crowned the best team champion probably 14-15 times out of 16 so far. The best team wins the Super Bowl and March Madness tournaments with far, far less frequency.

If you want to reduce the importance of the regular season and expand the postseason like those events, then fine. But if you want to crown the best team champion (my preference), the BCS is the best system we have ever had and it isn't close.
 

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By definition, the BCS is a playoff. A 2 team playoff. And it has crowned the best team champion probably 14-15 times out of 16 so far. The best team wins the Super Bowl and March Madness tournaments with far, far less frequency.

If you want to reduce the importance of the regular season and expand the postseason like those events, then fine. But if you want to crown the best team champion (my preference), the BCS is the best system we have ever had and it isn't close.

A four team, even eight would not reduce the importance of the regular season, get real this isn't pro sports where every damn team will be in the playoffs. The BCS flaws were numerous, the most glaring was giving one team special considerations that nobody else got. Now March Madness has over done it with the number of teams but it's still better than any poll/computer ranking deciding who plays for the championship.
 

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16 is probably too many, but to say that the BCS is optimal is ridiculous... but consider the source there. There are way too many Div I CFB teams to pretend you've chosen the best 2 teams when most of these teams don't even play each other and have precious few common opponents. So to the BCS nut-huggers who say "well they've usually gotten it right". Based on what exactly ? The eyeball test ? You're just guessing. 8-12 teams would be about right.
 

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I really think some SEC fans are afraid they're going to lose in the first round and be exposed and that's why most are against a playoff.
 

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The BCS is the best system we have ever had and it isn't close.

Of course it is. The previous hodgepodge of bowls where everyone got a trophy wasn't exactly a tough act to follow.
 

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The way I look at it is a team will have 12 games to make a statement to prove they belong in a playoff. Playing nobodies will not do that.
 

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A four team, even eight would not reduce the importance of the regular season, get real this isn't pro sports where every damn team will be in the playoffs. The BCS flaws were numerous, the most glaring was giving one team special considerations that nobody else got. Now March Madness has over done it with the number of teams but it's still better than any poll/computer ranking deciding who plays for the championship.

8 team playoff wouldn't reduce the importance of the regular season? really? why would ohio state care about the result of that game when they could just rest their starters, lose the game, and play the next week. same for auburn/missouri, auburn/alabama, many championship games, and many games pitting top 5 teams against one another.

what special considerations did one team get that nobody else got? and you do realize that the RPI is a huge factor in determining who plays in march madness right?
 

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I really think some SEC fans are afraid they're going to lose in the first round and be exposed and that's why most are against a playoff.

or maybe we just think it is ridiculous to have to play and beat top 10 teams in back to back weeks just to get a berth while michigan state plays 1 ranked team all year and gets a berth. that doesn't make it more fair.

want to play for all the marbles? be one of the best 2 teams in the country and prove it starting week 1.
 

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I'd love to see the 10 conferences split into 2 divisions. I know money is always THE factor, but they could come to an agreement somehow...I suppose. It would involve a lot of red tape, but it'd be nice. All 5 conference champions and 3 at-larges would make up an 8-team playoff in each. If all of that were to happen we could have this:

Division A--ACC, Big 10, Big XII, Pac-12, SEC
Division B--AAC, C-USA, MAC, MWC, SBC

Division A
1)Florida St (13-0) vs 8)Missouri (11-2)
4)Michigan St (12-1) vs 5)Stanford (11-2)

2)Auburn (12-1) vs 7)Ohio St (12-1)
3)Alabama (11-1) vs 6)Baylor (11-1)

Division B
1)UCF (11-1) vs 8)UL-Lafayette (8-4)
4)No Illinois (12-1) vs 5)Cincinnati (9-3)

2)Louisville (11-1) vs 7)Rice (10-3)
3)Fresno St (11-1) vs 6)Bowling Green (10-3)
 

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or maybe we just think it is ridiculous to have to play and beat top 10 teams in back to back weeks just to get a berth while michigan state plays 1 ranked team all year and gets a berth. that doesn't make it more fair.

want to play for all the marbles? be one of the best 2 teams in the country and prove it starting week 1.

Remember this, those rankings are opinions and not facts. In the end a playoff may prove that.
 

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I could be persuaded in an 11 team playoff.. That would give the winner of the 5 major conferences a bye week. 6 at large teams. I like rewarding conference champs, but I understand with unbalanced conference schedules that it makes sense for some at-large teams.
 

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Remember this, those rankings are opinions and not facts. In the end a playoff may prove that.

the rankings take into account nonconference results. the big 10 has already proved themselves weaker than the SEC based on nonconference results earlier in the season. Pac-12 also proved itself as stronger. we can then judge a team's schedule against another team's schedule and draw conclusions.

just because a perceived weaker team upsets the perceived stronger team one time doesn't mean that team would have even come close to making the playoff if they had a full schedule like the other team.

would michigan state be in the top 4 with a schedule that consisted of 4 top 16 teams? i seriously doubt it.
 

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If you are in the BCS top-25 and a conference champion you receive an automatic spot. Of the 10 conference champs 3 would not qualify--Bowling Green (10-3), UL-Lafayette (8-4), and Rice (10-3). I also forbid same conference matchups in the 1st round if possible. I switched Clemson and Oklahoma to avoid an OU-Baylor game. I know it will always be a dream or won't happen until way on down the road. I can only hope sooner than later. :hope:

1)*Florida St (13-0) vs 16)*Fresno St (11-1)
8)Missouri (11-2) vs 9)Oregon (10-2)

4)*Michigan St (12-1) vs 13)Oklahoma St (10-2)
5)*Stanford (11-2) vs 12)Oklahoma (10-2)

2)*Auburn (12-1) vs 15)*UCF (11-1)
7)Ohio St (12-1) vs 10)So Carolina (10-2)

3)Alabama (11-1) vs 14)Arizona St (10-3)
6)*Baylor (11-1) vs 11)Clemson (10-2)
(*)conference champion
Why 16 teams is too many:

- The finalists will have played 17 games. You either have to play all of December, through finals, or you have to play well into January, competing with the NFL and the Super Bowl. You have to realize that won't happen.

- The athletes don't want to play more games that lessens the number of games they may play on Sunday. It's pretty much a given these days that RBs in particular realize that they have only so many rushes in their productive careers.

- You have a 3 loss team in there, and several 2 loss teams - there goes the regular season - the reason college football is so awesome is that you can't afford to lose a single game, but now you could lose 2 or 3 and still get in a playoff? Nah.

- Say you are a fan of the team that wins ... did you decide to go to the round of 16, the Elite 8, the final 4, or did you wait hoping to get to the NC game? Few can afford to go to all 4, and if they do they won't spend the money the sponsors/cities will want you to spend. As an example, if everyone waits to go to the Elite 8, the round of 16 will suck balls for attendance.
 

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By definition, the BCS is a playoff. A 2 team playoff. And it has crowned the best team champion probably 14-15 times out of 16 so far. The best team wins the Super Bowl and March Madness tournaments with far, far less frequency.

If you want to reduce the importance of the regular season and expand the postseason like those events, then fine. But if you want to crown the best team champion (my preference), the BCS is the best system we have ever had and it isn't close.

That happened in 2011, ship has sailed. " CFB #whereeverygamecounts!!.... Unless it doesnt???
 
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