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[lasgop8]

NHL Rumors: No Progress At This Time On An Artemi Panarin Contract Extension

Panarin still available for a trade.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

NHL Rumors: No Progress At This Time On An Artemi Panarin Contract Extension

Panarin still available for a trade.

They must be asking a king's ransom for him, I would think he could fill in nicely on someones team.

 

[lasgop8]

This season in juniors for sure. But based on his progression, I would say he could make a run at the team next year. More likely is he spends at least some of the 2019-20 season in the AHL though, based on the way prospects go as Flyers. He seems to be pretty highly thought already though, so maybe he's got an NHL shot for 19-20.

Is there really any point to having a good camp with this organization? You know as a player you'll be at camp again next year anyway.

 

[awaz]

Is there really any point to having a good camp with this organization? You know as a player you'll be at camp again next year anyway.

Absolutely. Everyone thought Konecny would be headed back to juniors, but a good camp and a good pre-season had him on the Flyers in his draft+2 season.

And even if a good performance doesn't get that result, it's still another item on your resume to make the NHL team some day. A good camp is going to help more than a bad camp will. Good camps, good seasons, all play a part.

 

[lasgop8]

Absolutely. Everyone thought Konecny would be headed back to juniors, but a good camp and a good pre-season had him on the Flyers in his draft+2 season.

And even if a good performance doesn't get that result, it's still another item on your resume to make the NHL team some day. A good camp is going to help more than a bad camp will. Good camps, good seasons, all play a part.

Yes exactly draft plus two seasons so pretty much nobody comes up earlier than that with this regime.So if you just have an awesome camp in your third season and two mediocre camps prior you probably move up to the bigs anyway.

 

[chy1127]

Couts plays at 6'3 211 Simmonds at 6'2 185 and at 210 hes heavier than 75% of our roster.

They say he has sic hands too, maybe another 5-7 pounds of muscle would be good don't want him too big, he isn't necessarily a banger.

At 6-6 I would think he could add another 10 - 15 lbs of muscle without problem. Remember, he is still only 19.

 

[awaz]

Yes exactly draft plus two seasons so pretty much nobody comes up earlier than that with this regime.So if you just have an awesome camp in your third season and two mediocre camps prior you probably move up to the bigs anyway.

That's really not uncommon across the NHL. There were only two Draft + 1 guys in the NHL last year. The Flyers' own Nolan Patrick, and Nico Hischier.

2016 Draft - Matthews (1st, TOR), Laine (2nd, WPG), Tkachuk (3rd, CAL)
2015 Draft - McDavid (1st, EDM), Eichel (2nd, BUF)

So 7 guys, from 7 different teams, over the past 3 drafts have made the NHL before their D+2 season. The Flyers are among the 23% of NHL teams that have done it in the past 3 drafts. (only looking at first rounders because that'd be too much research. And if nobody after #3 overall did it, it's a safe guess I didn't miss many/any guys later than the 1st round)

Provorov and Konecy each spent their D+1 season in juniors, then played with the Flyers in the D+2 season. If the talent is there, they're just as willing as any team to play the guys in the NHL. And we're hoping Frost does it this season.

 

[mall3013]

That's really not uncommon across the NHL. There were only two Draft + 1 guys in the NHL last year. The Flyers' own Nolan Patrick, and Nico Hischier.

2016 Draft - Matthews (1st, TOR), Laine (2nd, WPG), Tkachuk (3rd, CAL)
2015 Draft - McDavid (1st, EDM), Eichel (2nd, BUF)

So 7 guys, from 7 different teams, over the past 3 drafts have made the NHL before their D+2 season. The Flyers are among the 23% of NHL teams that have done it in the past 3 drafts. (only looking at first rounders because that'd be too much research. And if nobody after #3 overall did it, it's a safe guess I didn't miss many/any guys later than the 1st round)

Provorov and Konecy each spent their D+1 season in juniors, then played with the Flyers in the D+2 season. If the talent is there, they're just as willing as any team to play the guys in the NHL. And we're hoping Frost does it this season.

And I sincerely believe he will.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

At 6-6 I would think he could add another 10 - 15 lbs of muscle without problem. Remember, he is still only 19.

Probably, depends on his over all build, I'm 6'4" and weigh 225, however I'm 52 lol, but even when I was healthier and athletic I hovered around 217-220, if it doesn't slow him down any I say do it but if he's speedy and quick maybe a few lesser, remember muscle mass is dense weight.

 

[4thstreet]

Probably, depends on his over all build, I'm 6'4" and weigh 225, however I'm 52 lol, but even when I was healthier and athletic I hovered around 217-220, if it doesn't slow him down any I say do it but if he's speedy and quick maybe a few lesser, remember muscle mass is dense weight.

6'4" and 225 is pretty average(not saying you're morbidly obese).My brother in law is 6'5" and 200,and he looks rail thin.I'm 6'1/4" and 205 but have been involved in sports all my life(still playing in 3 ball leagues,and a golf league @59).

Most athletes can not play with excess muscle weight as it slows them down.Doesn't matter what nutritionists and sports therapists do to help their cause-it's common fact.

Today's athletes are getting more and more into"side fitness"-yoga,swimming,etc..to help them keep muscles from tightening up on them.

I can personally vouch for the swimming,as I can't remember thwe last time I got a muscle cramp-tk god.

 

[lasgop8]

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[lasgop8]

How much and how many years do we pay Robert Hagg?

 

[awaz]

How much and how many years do we pay Robert Hagg?

I'm thinking 2 years around 1.5.

 

[awaz]

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Going with:

1. Provorov
2. Konecny
3. Patrick
4. Hart
5. Frost
6. Sanheim
7. Lindblom
8. Myers
9. Hagg
10. Laughton
11. Vorobyev
12. Leier
13. Ratcliffe
14. Sandstrom
15. Allison
16. Farabee
17. Aube-Kubel
18. Morin
19. Stolarz
20. Rubtsov
21. Laczynski
22. O'Brien
23. Friedman
24. Strome
25. Sushko

Trying to base it on both talent right now and ceiling. For example, if Farabee and O'Brien pan out, they'll be better than Lindblom I think, but they have to prove something first.

 

[lasgop8]

Going with:

1. Provorov
2. Konecny
3. Patrick
4. Hart
5. Frost
6. Sanheim
7. Lindblom
8. Myers
9. Hagg
10. Laughton
11. Vorobyev
12. Leier
13. Ratcliffe
14. Sandstrom
15. Allison
16. Farabee
17. Aube-Kubel
18. Morin
19. Stolarz
20. Rubtsov
21. Laczynski
22. O'Brien
23. Friedman
24. Strome
25. Sushko

Trying to base it on both talent right now and ceiling. For example, if Farabee and O'Brien pan out, they'll be better than Lindblom I think, but they have to prove something first.

I like this list the only moves i would make is move Lindblom below Myers and Hagg and i would move Morin up a few spots to 14.

 

[Chris p Bacon]

How much and how many years do we pay Robert Hagg?

Depends on how good you think his ceiling is,

I'm thinking 2 years around 1.5.

I would try to get at least three, that way if he gets better you get him for cheap for a couple lol.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Depends on how good you think his ceiling is,

I would try to get at least three, that way if he gets better you get him for cheap for a couple lol.

I liked Haggs game he will most likely only get better with age smarter. Sign him up...

 

[awaz]

Depends on how good you think his ceiling is,

I would try to get at least three, that way if he gets better you get him for cheap for a couple lol.

Hagg signed his ELC at 19, so he needs 4 years of AHL/NHL experience to get arbitration rights, right now he's at 2. And he'll be able to be a UFA in 4 years (when he's 27).

I think.

So a 2 year contract gets him to arbitration rights, not really a big deal, and a 4 year deal gets him to UFA status. So I would say 2-3 year deal max so that he's still RFA at the end of it. I don't think either one makes a big difference, but I don't want to give him much more than 2M per. I like Hagg, but as a 5 or 6 dman, PK specialist type guy. Certainly needed, but not something to overpay for.

The sorta nice thing about Hagg is he's definitely a defensive first guy. Typically those guys come a little cheaper.

 

[lasgop8]

Depends on how good you think his ceiling is,

I would try to get at least three, that way if he gets better you get him for cheap for a couple lol.

I agree I like the idea of three years instead of two .Gudas is gone after 19-20 season and they are basically the same player at this point in their careers and i expect Hagg will get better in a few years.

 

[lasgop8]

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