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Series Thread: ECF: Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavs

TurnUpTheHeat

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Keys to victory for both teams.

Cavs:
Pretend like its 0-0.
Expect your role players to be better at home.
Don’t force LeBron to dominate early.
Try to blitz Celts early.
If they can build an early double digit lead like in game 2, chances are they won’t blow it.


#nailedit
 

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It's awfully quiet tonight isn't it

My bad. I got distracted by that Batman show from the 1960s. They were scaling a building and Edward G Robinson popped out of a window to tell a joke about how shitty Andy Warhol's art is. Those people had to be high a fuck making that show.
 

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Celtics shouldn't even be at this stage. missing their two best players. And considering how pathetic the East is year after year, Cavs should lose a game really. The East is full of role players, injured teams, and inexperience rookies or CAREER PLAYOFF CHOKERS. Don't deny it because the fact has been in you're ugly mug for YEARS now (Which is why LEbron has 7-8 straight finals appearance)


calm down Corky, and do some more research. you're entire post is full of epic fails.

lol
 

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so......lets just hope the Cavs tie it up in Game 4.....Boston should be more comfortable in game 4......

as long as the Cavs win Game 4 the Cavs will win the series. I have no clue if they will win game 4 though.

Cavs are winning game 4. Outside of game 3 against the 76ers, the Celtics have been consistently bad on the road in the playoffs. That's likely going to continue in game 4, I just expect it to be closer - which is stating the obvious.

This is why I'm still sticking with my Cavs series win prediction because going back to Boston up 2-2 puts a crap ton of pressure on the Celtics. And if this goes to 7, I'll go with Lebron who's been in that situation plenty of times.
 

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The best comparison is the 2008 series cause the Celtics had home court and won the first two games at home. That's the only series that matches up so far.

That was the series that ended with the famous game 7 duel better Pierce and LeBron, I think LeBron had 45 and Pierce had 42.

Hard to believe that was 10 years ago.
 

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Cavs are winning game 4. Outside of game 3 against the 76ers, the Celtics have been consistently bad on the road in the playoffs. That's likely going to continue in game 4, I just expect it to be closer - which is stating the obvious.

This is why I'm still sticking with my Cavs series win prediction because going back to Boston up 2-2 puts a crap ton of pressure on the Celtics. And if this goes to 7, I'll go with Lebron who's been in that situation plenty of times.

Yep, all the pressure in game 5 will be on the loser of game 4.
 

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Keys to victory for both teams.

Cavs:
Pretend like its 0-0.
Expect your role players to be better at home.
Don’t force LeBron to dominate early.
Try to blitz Celts early.
If they can build an early double digit lead like in game 2, chances are they won’t blow it.


#nailedit
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If you want to look at a players Defensive Win Shares over the course of 1 season, or 1 playoffs, you need to factor in how good the team defense is. Take the best defensive player in the world and put them on a bad defensive team and they have zero shot at the leaderboard for defensive win shares.

Look at a players defensive win shares relative to their team defense and you'll start to get a more accurate picture of individual defense. LeBron has twice as many defensive win shares as the 2nd best Cav and 3 times as many as the 3rd best Cav.

The Cavs have a grand total of 2 players with a defensive win share > 1 (Kevin Love and LeBron James). The Celtics have 12 players with a dws > 1.

Is Kyrie a much better defender than George Hill? Is Greg Monroe a much better defender than Tristan Thompson? According to defensive win shares from this season, yes. Defensive win shares is just not a good measurement of individual defense.

This is a really great post.

I am honestly not sure any stats can accurately measure LeBron's defense.

In his prime, he was as good an on ball defender as anybody who has ever played. He is still a pretty darn good help defender.

However, where he has always lacked, IMO, is in making multiple effort plays and he also tends to overhelp looking for that highlight reel block. Which, is an even bigger problem now because when he helps, he then fails to rotate back and close out to shooters.

Too man times I have seen LeBron walk back defensively after a missed call/shot on the offensive end, or give up on a defensive play after a kick out when he has committed to help.

He was vintage LeBron on the ball last night against Brown. I think for the Cavs to win this series, he is going to have to expend a little more energy defensively. That includes closing out to open shooters, which he has never been great at.
 

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Cavs are winning game 4. Outside of game 3 against the 76ers, the Celtics have been consistently bad on the road in the playoffs. That's likely going to continue in game 4, I just expect it to be closer - which is stating the obvious.

This is why I'm still sticking with my Cavs series win prediction because going back to Boston up 2-2 puts a crap ton of pressure on the Celtics. And if this goes to 7, I'll go with Lebron who's been in that situation plenty of times.
*tied 2-2*
 

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isnt there some stat about LeBron where he wins a road game in just about every playoff series he has played in minus one or two?


Only time he hasn’t ( since he joined the Heat), was last years Finals.
 

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Cavs are winning game 4. Outside of game 3 against the 76ers, the Celtics have been consistently bad on the road in the playoffs. That's likely going to continue in game 4, I just expect it to be closer - which is stating the obvious.

This is why I'm still sticking with my Cavs series win prediction because going back to Boston up 2-2 puts a crap ton of pressure on the Celtics. And if this goes to 7, I'll go with Lebron who's been in that situation plenty of times.


Staggering how much better Boston has been at home vs road this playoffs.
My mindset coming into this series was that LeBron/Cavs would find a way to win a road game and Boston wouldn’t.

I think game 2 showed us that us that it might be more diffucult for the Cavs to win on the road then expected.
 

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Staggering how much better Boston has been at home vs road this playoffs.
My mindset coming into this series was that LeBron/Cavs would find a way to win a road game and Boston wouldn’t.

I think game 2 showed us that us that it might be more diffucult for the Cavs to win on the road then expected.

Agreed.

Ditto for the Celtics.

I guess I have a tough time understanding Cleveland's effort in games 1 and 2. Missed shots I get, but the Cavs team I saw in game 3 played hard. The team I saw in games 1 and 2 did not.
 

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Agreed.

Ditto for the Celtics.

I guess I have a tough time understanding Cleveland's effort in games 1 and 2. Missed shots I get, but the Cavs team I saw in game 3 played hard. The team I saw in games 1 and 2 did not.


There was effort in game 2, but I felt the Cavs were in trouble when James came out on fire, was exerting a ton of energy, and the Cavs lead at the half was only 7.
 
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