Early as f*ck Heisman chatter, who's on your radar?

steelerssb · Feb 23, 2018

Drew Lock

7Samurai13 · Feb 23, 2018

steelerssb said:
Drew Lock

steelerssb · Feb 23, 2018

7Samurai13 said:

In seriousness I think he's an interesting case. If he puts up numbers like he did at the end of last season all year he might make a push to be a finalist. Of course his team needs to win games against not sub-.500 teams and that's one reason I would not put him in the top 10 now though.

Fromm, Taylor, McSorley and Love would have to be my finalist picks right now.

4down20 · Feb 23, 2018

Codaxx said:
It would be awesome if you knew half of what you assume. Georgia was a running team with a freshmen QB, so awesome comparison to a wide open offense that is QB friendly.

In the 2nd half of that game, Alabama had a total of 10 called RB running plays.

vs 24 pass attempts by Tua and 12 rushing attempts(most of which were scrambles/sacks etc with an occasional read option).

So his number was called 36 times vs 10 for the RB's.

There were 0 run attempts by any RB his first 3 drives of the 2nd half.

3 of those 10 runs by the RB, almost 33% of the total for the half, came on the last drive when Alabama was trying to setup a FG. 4 of Tua's runs also came on that final drive.

The other 7 runs however, due to Georgia's defense apparently disagreeing with you that Alabama is a run team with Tua, racked up 94 yards and Alabama averaged 13 yards per carry in the 2nd half with it's RB's.

Hell, the Alabama offense wasn't even the same from 1 half to the next and still people like you go on with your old ass narratives.

bamabear82 · Feb 23, 2018

BigRedMoe said:
I'm glad you're coming to terms with that.

Sometimes you just gotta know who your superiors are and respect that. Game recognize game.

outofyourmind · Feb 23, 2018

4down20 said:
Watch these videos and you'll see why none of the people mentioned have a chance.

Interesting

Codaxx · Feb 23, 2018

4down20 said:
In the 2nd half of that game, Alabama had a total of 10 called RB running plays.

vs 24 pass attempts by Tua and 12 rushing attempts(most of which were scrambles/sacks etc with an occasional read option).

So his number was called 36 times vs 10 for the RB's.

There were 0 run attempts by any RB his first 3 drives of the 2nd half.

3 of those 10 runs by the RB, almost 33% of the total for the half, came on the last drive when Alabama was trying to setup a FG. 4 of Tua's runs also came on that final drive.

The other 7 runs however, due to Georgia's defense apparently disagreeing with you that Alabama is a run team with Tua, racked up 94 yards and Alabama averaged 13 yards per carry in the 2nd half with it's RB's.

Hell, the Alabama offense wasn't even the same from 1 half to the next and still people like you go on with your old ass narratives.

Dude. There are like 10 seasons. If you read what I wrote I said outside of some big games the offense is not going to give him the opportunities. It will be run oriented, because that has what has worked for Saban. I highly doubt it will change. You are taking a half and pretending it is the same as 10 years of data. There are teams like OU that are going to throw it around 30 times and guve the QB runs. If a Soph wins the Heisman, he will need sick numbers. Just like Manziel had at A&M. I don't see Bama needing that from their QB. Just a thought, maybe the change up from Bama crossed Georgia's defense up. Your whole argument comes down to one half. Step off the gas and give the kid some time. I'll be happy to make a bet that Tua isn't going to average 30 attempts a game passing. Do you want to take that or put on some skates?

4down20 · Feb 23, 2018

Codaxx said:
Dude. There are like 10 seasons. If you read what I wrote I said outside of some big games the offense is not going to give him the opportunities. It will be run oriented, because that has what has worked for Saban. I highly doubt it will change. You are taking a half and pretending it is the same as 10 years of data. There are teams like OU that are going to throw it around 30 times and guve the QB runs. If a Soph wins the Heisman, he will need sick numbers. Just like Manziel had at A&M. I don't see Bama needing that from their QB. Just a thought, maybe the change up from Bama crossed Georgia's defense up. Your whole argument comes down to one half. Step off the gas and give the kid some time. I'll be happy to make a bet that Tua isn't going to average 30 attempts a game passing. Do you want to take that or put on some skates?

There is no 10 years of data because it's just bullshit you've made up.

I'll take that bet.

Actual Data:

Average attempts per game for Alabama QB's:

John Parker Wilson 2007: 35 attempts per game.
John Parker Wilson 2008: 23 attempts per game.
Greg McElroy 2009: 23 attempts per game.
Greg McElroy 2010: 24 attempts per game.
AJ McCarron 2011: 25 attempts per game.
AJ McCarron 2012: 22 attempts per game.
AJ McCarron 2013: 26 attempts per game (2nd in Heisman)
Blake Sims: 28 attempts per game.
Jake Coker: 26 attempts per game
Jalen Hurts 2016: 26 attempts per game.
Jalen Hurts 2017: 18 attempts per game.

4down20 · Feb 23, 2018

outofyourmind said:
Interesting

I love watching videos like that where people who know what they are talking about break things down even if it wasn't an Alabama player. Alabama player makes it just a bonus.

The reads the kid is making are amazing. He see's the stuff Jalen would never see and bail out of. He's a pass first QB and that's what I want to see behind center.

4down20 · Feb 23, 2018

Codaxx said:
Dude. There are like 10 seasons. If you read what I wrote I said outside of some big games the offense is not going to give him the opportunities. It will be run oriented, because that has what has worked for Saban. I highly doubt it will change. You are taking a half and pretending it is the same as 10 years of data. There are teams like OU that are going to throw it around 30 times and guve the QB runs. If a Soph wins the Heisman, he will need sick numbers. Just like Manziel had at A&M. I don't see Bama needing that from their QB. Just a thought, maybe the change up from Bama crossed Georgia's defense up. Your whole argument comes down to one half. Step off the gas and give the kid some time. I'll be happy to make a bet that Tua isn't going to average 30 attempts a game passing. Do you want to take that or put on some skates?

Btw, Kirby Smart said they prepped for Tua and expected to see him. So it's not a case of Georgia wasn't ready for him.

Cowboyinexile · Feb 23, 2018

Khalil Tate
Jarrett Stidham

Across The Field · Feb 24, 2018

romeo212000 said:
Keep an eye out for Rodney Anderson at Oklahoma. Love has to be the early favorite though.

Pretty good advice for the ladies of Norman, as well...

Across The Field · Feb 24, 2018

The Derski said:
Probably one of Ohio States 15 black QBs.

Dude... you're not gonna believe it... say hello to your 2018 Ohio State Buckeye QB room

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Across The Field · Feb 24, 2018

ralphiewvu said:
“Dwayne Haskins because of his amazing performance for 1.5 quarters against Michigan last year.” -ATF

7Samurai13 said:
Obviously this thread is talking about second place.

B_dub · Feb 24, 2018

Across The Field said:
Pretty good advice for the ladies of Norman, as well...

Might have been funny if he was referring to Mixon. But when your trying to make a jab (No pun intended) over a woman who dropped a protective order after it got proved she texted everyone under the sun she wanted to get with Anderson beforehand and after they did little fingerbanging. Then got upset Anderson didn't want to pursue a longterm relationship with her so later went to the police and called it r*pe before ultimately dropping the order, it just makes you come across as ignorant.

Across The Field · Feb 24, 2018

B_dub said:
Might have been funny if he was referring to Mixon. But when your trying to make a jab (No pun intended) over a woman who dropped a protective order after it got proved she texted everyone under the sun she wanted to get with Anderson beforehand and after they did little fingerbanging. Then got upset Anderson didn't want to pursue a longterm relationship with her so later went to the police and called it r*pe before ultimately dropping the order, it just makes you come across as ignorant.

romeo212000 · Feb 24, 2018

Across The Field said:
Pretty good advice for the ladies of Norman, as well...

Go fuck your self.

rmilia1 · Feb 24, 2018

I don't even remember who won it last year so in going with " I don't care"

Across The Field · Feb 24, 2018

romeo212000 said:
Go fuck your self.

Dust the sand out of your vag, Mary. It was a joke. And don't get all "holier than thou" about it, I've seen you make off-color remarks on here plenty of times. You just can't handle it when it involves your team.

ericd7633 · Feb 24, 2018

1. Bryce Love
2. Jonathan Taylor
3. Trace McSorley
4. Khalil Tate
5. D'Andre Swift

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