Your Top 25 MLB Players of All-Time

[BallsOfFurry]

This is why Koufax is the most overrated pitcher ever. I already gave my reasons earlier. Feel free to respond to those

Koufax was great for a few years, but his best years were some of the weakest offensive seasons in MLB history.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

LMAO

I did the research, it's undeniable, so, you know, stop denying it.
He has the best ratio between his ERA and the league average ERAof his contemporaries in his career of any pitcher in history and he has the best winning percentage of any 300 game winner in history....winning!!

 

[BallsOfFurry]

I disagree with you. Very strongly. Trout needs 4 more mediocre years to be a Lock for the HOF.

Wow, you seem to have no idea about what the hall looks at.
Most regular position HOFers had 18 to 22 year careers and were great for most of those years.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I did the research, it's undeniable, so, you know, stop denying it.
He has the best ratio between his ERA and the league average ERAof his contemporaries in his career of any pitcher in history and he has the best winning percentage of any 300 game winner in history....winning!!

You did the research that said Grove was the best ever! So it is your shitty opinion.

Walter Johnson is GOAT. Fact.

Next you are going to tell us Babe Ruth wasn't GOAT.

Bc he had the best winning percentage makes him the best???? Wow. Good analysis LMAO!

You are clueless.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

You did the research that said Grove was the best ever! So it is your shitty opinion.

Walter Johnson is GOAT. Fact.

Next you are going to tell us Babe Ruth wasn't GOAT.

Bc he had the best winning percentage makes him the best???? Wow. Good analysis LMAO!

You are clueless.

Grove has the best ratio between his career ERA and the average league ERA of his contemporaries and the best winning percentage of all 300 game winnings.
Johnson threw hard, advantage Grove.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Wow, you seem to have no idea about what the hall looks at.
Most regular position HOFers had 18 to 22 year careers and were great for most of those years.

Most likely Trout will make the HOF, god forbide some crazy injury happens he will also play more than 6 years at a very high level. You seem to value longevity more than great in prime and #1 player. The great thing about Trout is 4-6 more years and he will have longevity and prime at the age of only 31 or so. Trout is the best player in baseball and has been the last few years. If he is the #1 player for 4-6 more years, he WILL make the HOF. You should probably watch this kid play every now and then

 

[Shanemansj13]

Grove has the best ratio between his career ERA and the average league ERA of his contemporaries and the best winning percentage of all 300 game winnings.
Johnson threw hard, advantage Grove.

So you are saying Grove is GOAT over Walter Johnson?

 

[Chewbaccer]

1. Babe Ruth
2. Willie Mays
3. Barry Bonds
4. Ted Williams
5. Roger Clemens
6. Hank Aaron
7. Ty Cobb
8. Rogers Hornsby
9. Greg Maddux
10. Honus Wagner
11. Lou Gehrig
12. Randy Johnson
13. Stan Musial
14. Mickey Mantle
15. Tris Speaker
16. Alex Rodriguez
17. Jimmie Foxx
18. Johnny Bench
19. Mike Schmidt
20. Mel Ott
21. Pete Rose
22. Frank Robinson
23. Joe DiMaggio
24. Lefty Grove
25. Chipper Jones(homer pick)

And that was done with absolutely zero research, so I'm sure there's some that are out of place, and I'm not high at all on dead ball era pitchers.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Grove has the best ratio between his career ERA and the average league ERA of his contemporaries and the best winning percentage of all 300 game winnings.
Johnson threw hard, advantage Grove.

You do know Walter had over 400 wins AND he had a lower ERA. GTFO out of here you troll

 

[Shanemansj13]

1. Babe Ruth
2. Willie Mays
3. Barry Bonds
4. Ted Williams
5. Roger Clemens
6. Hank Aaron
7. Ty Cobb
8. Rogers Hornsby
9. Greg Maddux
10. Honus Wagner
11. Lou Gehrig
12. Randy Johnson
13. Stan Musial
14. Mickey Mantle
15. Tris Speaker
16. Alex Rodriguez
17. Jimmie Foxx
18. Johnny Bench
19. Mike Schmidt
20. Mel Ott
21. Pete Rose
22. Frank Robinson
23. Joe DiMaggio
24. Lefty Grove
25. Chipper Jones(homer pick)

And that was done with absolutely zero research, so I'm sure there's some that are out of place, and I'm not high at all on dead ball era pitchers.

Walter Johnson?

 

[Chewbaccer]

Walter Johnson?

Last sentence of my post.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Last sentence of my post.

Yeah I read it. Just letting you know lol

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Wow, you seem to have no idea about what the hall looks at.
Most regular position HOFers had 18 to 22 year careers and were great for most of those years.

Umm. You need to have at least 10 seasons. Trout already has 7(this is his 7th),so 4 more seasons gets him over the 10. And he was so good so far that he does not need the 18 years to make the HOF. He won't even need 15.

I'll admit 4 seasons was an exaggeration. But he really only needs 13 seasons to get in with what he has done so far. And if he has 2 more of hear seasons he can retire with 10 seasons under his belt and make it.

 

[Chewbaccer]

You do know Walter had over 400 wins AND he had a lower ERA. GTFO out of here you troll

You might remember his real account from his retarded posts in the PFs and NCAAF forum. He's really @TeddyJackEddy posting under an alt.

But one admin is busy at work at home and the other has no interest in the policing part of site ownership.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

Most likely Trout will make the HOF, god forbide some crazy injury happens he will also play more than 6 years at a very high level. You seem to value longevity more than great in prime and #1 player. The great thing about Trout is 4-6 more years and he will have longevity and prime at the age of only 31 or so. Trout is the best player in baseball and has been the last few years. If he is the #1 player for 4-6 more years, he WILL make the HOF. You should probably watch this kid play every now and then

It's not me who values longevity, well, I do, but 1500 RBIs is on the low end of what it takes for a hitter to get into the HOF, that doesn't happen in 10 seasons, we're looking at 15 minimum and 19 on average for HOF hitters.
Trout is a hell of a player and if he stays relatively healthy he'll probably be a HOFer in 20 years.

 

[Shanemansj13]

You do know Walter had over 400 wins AND he had a lower ERA. GTFO out of here you troll

Of course Balls didn't say anything about this post bc it truly shows he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about lol

 

[BallsOfFurry]

You might remember his real account from his retarded posts in the PFs and NCAAF forum. He's really @TeddyJackEddy posting under an alt.

But one admin is busy at work at home and the other has no interest in the policing part of site ownership.

Look dumb fucks, Johnson was a great pitcher. He also pitched most of his career when the MLB leading HR hitter had 14 or so. He never had a top season once power came into the game. His ERA after 1919 was around 3.35.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Look dumb fucks, Johnson was a great pitcher. He also pitched most of his career when the MLB leading HR hitter had 14 or so. He never had a top season once power came into the game. His ERA after 1919 was around 3.35.

If you notice, Walter Johnson didn't make my list. Why is it that every time you quote me, you stick your foot in your mouth?

And why are you posting under an alt account, @TeddyJackEddy ?

 

[BallsOfFurry]

Umm. You need to have at least 10 seasons. Trout already has 7(this is his 7th),so 4 more seasons gets him over the 10. And he was so good so far that he does not need the 18 years to make the HOF. He won't even need 15.

I'll admit 4 seasons was an exaggeration. But he really only needs 13 seasons to get in with what he has done so far. And if he has 2 more of hear seasons he can retire with 10 seasons under his belt and make it.

You clearly don't follow HOF voting.
Trout has all of 501 RBIs, he'll need between 1600 and 1700 to be first ballot and at least 1550 to have a real shot.
He will get there if he keeps producing for another 12 years at a star level.

 

[JohnU]

So that introduces the question if we are going to compare pitchers based on longevity, wins and strikeouts.

A modern rotation guy, assuming he pitches for 15 seasons, is going to have -- TOPS -- about 2/3 of the total numbers that Spahn had, and half of what Johnson had. Mainly because 30 starts now and 200 innings is considered acceptable. Wins are not even being considered a stat now.

So that being the case, the question is:

In 20 years, who among modern pitchers do we compare against the greats who come from different eras? And a different era for pitcher usage is really only about 15 years ago.