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[romeo212000]

Maybe it should be Elvis

I was kinda thinking that. Dude owns Cleveland.

 

[romeo212000]

so what do we do with him? continue sending him out there giving up 5 or 6 runs every game. you can see the players out in the field deflate

He's actually been better recently. And he's certainly better than Martinez or chi chi of Harrell. So settle down.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

He's hiding under the bed. You hosed him good.

This is like talking smack to a dad who just let his kid win a game.

 

[romeo212000]

This is like talking smack to a dad who just let his kid win a game.

Don't be mad just cause you took the bait now.

 

[donaldson79]

so what do we do with him? continue sending him out there giving up 5 or 6 runs every game. you can see the players out in the field deflate

Well, you can't just put him on the DL.

And he's not giving up 5/6 runs every time out. His ERA isn't great, under 4.50, but it's a lot better than Gonzalez or Martinez or Harrel. Right now he's occupying the back end of our rotation, in either the 4 or 5 spot.

Now, name the name (s) of the players who "you can see them b/c deflated when Perez pitches." That's total BS IMO.

 

[DT LUNA]

Well, you can't just put him on the DL.

And he's not giving up 5/6 runs every time out. His ERA isn't great, under 4.50, but it's a lot better than Gonzalez or Martinez or Harrel. Right now he's occupying the back end of our rotation, in either the 4 or 5 spot.

Now, name the name (s) of the players who "you can see them b/c deflated when Perez pitches." That's total BS IMO.

Based on the past just consider the source. Stupid is stupid do.

 

[jaar01]

He's actually been better recently. And he's certainly better than Martinez or chi chi of Harrell. So settle down.

Last 10 starts for Martin Perez:
1-6
6.30 ERA
Among mlb starting pitchers since July 1 with at least 7 starts he has the 3rd worst ERA in all of baseball. So he's doing better lately? Compared to what?

 

[romeo212000]

Last 10 starts for Martin Perez:
1-6
6.30 ERA
Among mlb starting pitchers since July 1 with at least 7 starts he has the 3rd worst ERA in all of baseball. So he's doing better lately? Compared to what?

Yes. He's had some clunkers. He's also had two games in his last 5 where he only gave up 1 ER. At this point he's a #5 and he's certainly better than our other options.

 

[jta4437]

3-man in my book in Holland, Lewis & Griffin

A lot can change in a month, Perez just needs to learn to avoid the big inning, not to mention until recently Griffin was just as lousy as Perez, Holland has made one start, and Lewis is still hurt

 

[jaar01]

Yes. He's had some clunkers. He's also had two games in his last 5 where he only gave up 1 ER. At this point he's a #5 and he's certainly better than our other options.

Would you agree that if Colby comes back looking good then Perez moves to the bullpen? And right now I'm thinking Perez doesn't even make the playoff roster, especially in the divisional round.

 

[jta4437]

Would you agree that if Colby comes back looking good then Perez moves to the bullpen? And right now I'm thinking Perez doesn't even make the playoff roster, especially in the divisional round.

We have pitchers coming back from injuries, I'd consider a 6 man rotation until the playoffs start and ease Lewis and Holland back into action

 

[romeo212000]

Would you agree that if Colby comes back looking good then Perez moves to the bullpen? And right now I'm thinking Perez doesn't even make the playoff roster, especially in the divisional round.

I'm not going to address that as I never do. We were having this same conversation before our entire staff went on the DL, and I said then these things have a way of working themselves out. We'll worry about it when it gets here.

As for the playoff roster. Again, not really a conversation worth having at this point. No question the 1-3 spots should be set with Hamels, Darvish, and Lewis (assuming a healthy Lewis). As for the fourth spot, let Holland, Griffin, and Perez battle it out for that spot. One of them will go to the pen as the long man for October. The other... I don't know. I'm not really worried about it right now.

 

[romeo212000]

We have pitchers coming back from injuries, I'd consider a 6 man rotation until the playoffs start and ease Lewis and Holland back into action

I'm just not usually a big fan of 6 man rotations. Might not be a bad way to go for Colby's sake though.

 

[jaar01]

We have pitchers coming back from injuries, I'd consider a 6 man rotation until the playoffs start and ease Lewis and Holland back into action

I'm fine with that. But I think Hamels and Yu are "every 5th day" type guys that prefer that sort of structured routine.

 

[romeo212000]

I'm fine with that. But I think Hamels and Yu are "every 5th day" type guys that prefer that sort of structured routine.

And frankly, given the uncertainty coming from the rest of the rotation we could use their consistency. Though I think it would be a good idea to give Hamels an extra day here or there if we can.

 

[RevSader]

And frankly, given the uncertainty coming from the rest of the rotation we could use their consistency. Though I think it would be a good idea to give Hamels an extra day here or there if we can.

You saw how awesome he was with a full 5 days off.

 

[donaldson79]

I'm just not usually a big fan of 6 man rotations. Might not be a bad way to go for Colby's sake though.

By the time Lewis gets back he's only going to get maybe 4 starts. And that's with a 5 man rotation. I'd want to get him some innings to build his stamina up.

 

[donaldson79]

You saw how awesome he was with a full 5 days off.

Just as soon as we can wrap it up, the more rest we can get Cole. Let's hope it's sooner than later.

 

[RevSader]

Just as soon as we can wrap it up, the more rest we can get Cole. Let's hope it's sooner than later.

The days off the team has built in are paying off for that.

 

[donaldson79]

The days off the team has built in are paying off for that.

True enough. But I'd still love to see him get skipped @ least once before the end of the season.

And how much would everyone's spirits be lifted by another quality outing from Holland?