2015 ACC Tournament

[bksballer89]

Not a big deal for duke & Virginia even though both probably drop to 2 seed. In reality both teams lost to very high seeded teams come selection Sunday. Notre Dame should be a 3 seed at least & UNC is a 4 or 5 seed.

 

[podsox]

Not a big deal for duke & Virginia even though both probably drop to 2 seed. In reality both teams lost to very high seeded teams come selection Sunday. Notre Dame should be a 3 seed at least & UNC is a 4 or 5 seed.

sometimes id rather be a 2. that 2nd game seems to always be against a team with a ton of talent that underachieved in the 8/9 matchup

 

[jontaejones]

Not a big deal for duke & Virginia even though both probably drop to 2 seed. In reality both teams lost to very high seeded teams come selection Sunday. Notre Dame should be a 3 seed at least & UNC is a 4 or 5 seed.

Committee is going to have some decisions to make.

Everything after UK now at those top two lines is just complete chaos.

 

[bksballer89]

I think the only way both remain a 1 seed is that they need 2 of the following 3 to not win their conference title:

Arizona
Wisconsin
Villanova

 

[jeffro151]

I'm curious to see how it shakes out. UVA now has 3 losses, all to ranked teams, by 12 points COMBINED. UVa has 5 T 25 wins, Wisconsin has just 2. Wisconsin lost to Maryland and Rutgers, who UVa beat, @MD and neutral court vs Rutgers.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm curious to see how it shakes out. UVA now has 3 losses, all to ranked teams, by 12 points COMBINED. UVa has 5 T 25 wins, Wisconsin has just 2. Wisconsin lost to Maryland and Rutgers, who UVa beat, @MD and neutral court vs Rutgers.

Lunardi updated bracket still has Duke & Virginia as 1 seeds but he jumped Nova over both now.

I'm sure he will drop at least one if not both to the 2 line if Wisconsin and Arizona win their conference tournament.

 

[douggie]

Duke will be the only team in the tournament field to have beaten two #1 seeds on their home court if UVA is still a #1 seed and Wisconsin wins the B1G Tourney and captures a #1 seeding. As I stated before, UVA could afford a loss in the conference tournament since they were regular season leaders. Duke could not and that's why Duke will likely drop to a #2 seed now. Only hope for Duke now is that Arizona loses to Oregon or Villanova gets upset by Xavier.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Virginia did play Maryland without Dez Wells. He is by far the best player (all credit to trimble) but Wells is the team captain, NBA pick, and heart of the team.

The committee does take in injuries...so I am not sure they will weight that MD win without Wells as highly.

 

[dcZONAfan]

I'm curious to see how it shakes out. UVA now has 3 losses, all to ranked teams, by 12 points COMBINED. UVa has 5 T 25 wins, Wisconsin has just 2. Wisconsin lost to Maryland and Rutgers, who UVa beat, @MD and neutral court vs Rutgers.

I get that, but if you're the committee and UVA has lost two of their last three, you have to wonder if they are a legit #1 seed without a fully healthy Justin Anderson. Timing of losses matter, and with Nova, Wisconsin, and Arizona all on long winning streaks to end the season, the eye test says all three are playing better basketball right now. UVA has not looked good lately.

Lunardi updated bracket still has Duke & Virginia as 1 seeds but he jumped Nova over both now.

I'm sure he will drop at least one if not both to the 2 line if Wisconsin and Arizona win their conference tournament.

I wouldn't assume that at all. East coast bias is very real. I find it unlikely that Arizona will get a one over either of those teams.

Duke will be the only team in the tournament field to have beaten two #1 seeds on their home court if UVA is still a #1 seed and Wisconsin wins the B1G Tourney and captures a #1 seeding. As I stated before, UVA could afford a loss in the conference tournament since they were regular season leaders. Duke could not and that's why Duke will likely drop to a #2 seed now. Only hope for Duke now is that Arizona loses to Oregon or Villanova gets upset by Xavier.

Your take is probably the right one. But this is Duke. They are not going to be a 2 seed and you know it. Hell, they got a 3 seed last year when they were more like a 5 or 6 seed with the way that they played all year.

That name is worth at least one seed line, and I fully expect them to get a 1.

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

Jerry Palm (who I will concede is an idiot) has Duke as a 2. On the other hand, that has Duke being shipped all the way out to... checks bracket Charlotte, because of course they'll get to play in Charlotte anyway.

I'm skeptical that the committee will punish UVA because of Anderson, especially since they won all their games without him. Yeah, they dropped two since he was back but they were to a pair of high quality opponents.

 

[dcZONAfan]

Jerry Palm (who I will concede is an idiot) has Duke as a 2. On the other hand, that has Duke being shipped all the way out to... checks bracket Charlotte, because of course they'll get to play in Charlotte anyway.

I'm skeptical that the committee will punish UVA because of Anderson, especially since they won all their games without him. Yeah, they dropped two since he was back but they were one high quality opponents.

Had to do it Trolly. I still say Louisville is less high quality of an opponent than what they are perceived as

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

Had to do it Trolly. I still say Louisville is less high quality of an opponent than what they are perceived as

They have 24 wins, Their only bad loss was on the road to a long time rival the day after their starting point guard was suspended. They have wins over Virginia, and UNC. They have a HoF coach, two likely draft picks, one of whom is a PoY candidate.

They're better than Maryland by a damn site, and everybody can't seem to stop jerking off over the Terps.

God damn. I don't know what the fuck it takes to be a high quality team if that isn't it.

 

[UVA_Guy81]

I'm skeptical that the committee will punish UVA because of Anderson, especially since they won all their games without him.

They didn't have him for the Louisville game last week that they lost by 2.

If both Arizona and Wisconsin win their tournaments, I wouldn't be too surprised to see both UVA and Duke fall to 2 seeds. Like someone else said, the committee has a lot of thinking to do since theirs 6 teams fighting for 3 of those 1 seeds (Duke, UVA, Villanova, Arizona, Wisconsin and Gonzaga).

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

They didn't have him for the Louisville game last week that they lost by 2.

If both Arizona and Wisconsin win their tournaments, I wouldn't be too surprised to see both UVA and Duke fall to 2 seeds. Like someone else said, the committee has a lot of thinking to do since theirs 6 teams fighting for 3 of those 1 seeds (Duke, UVA, Villanova, Arizona, Wisconsin and Gonzaga).

Ahh.. I was mistaken about Anderson in the UofL game. I still think UVA is pretty much a lock for a #1.

Anderson is back now, so I don't think they'll get penalized for him being back. Who's going to have a better overall resume? Arizona's resume isn't there (hell, I'd argue it's barely better than UofL's) and a win over Oregon isn't going to change that. I still think UVA's resume is ahead of Duke and Nova. Duke's isn't getting any better, and I'm not sure a win over Xavier is going to do it for Nova.

You're the first person I've seen even acknowledge Gonzaga might still be in play for a 1 seed. I don't think they're a viable 1 at this point.

I think in order (assuming everyone still alive wins out)

1) UK
2) UVA
3) Wisconsin
4) Nova
5) Duke
6) Arizona
7) Gonzaga
8) Kansas

 

[dcZONAfan]

Why not add

Ahh.. I was mistaken about Anderson in the UofL game. I still think UVA is pretty much a lock for a #1.

Anderson is back now, so I don't think they'll get penalized for him being back. Who's going to have a better overall resume? Arizona's resume isn't there (hell, I'd argue it's barely better than UofL's) and a win over Oregon isn't going to change that. I still think UVA's resume is ahead of Duke and Nova. Duke's isn't getting any better, and I'm not sure a win over Xavier is going to do it for Nova.

You're the first person I've seen even acknowledge Gonzaga might still be in play for a 1 seed. I don't think they're a viable 1 at this point.

I think in order (assuming everyone still alive wins out)

1) UK
2) UVA
3) Wisconsin
4) Nova
5) Duke
5b) Louisville
6) Arizona
7) Gonzaga
8) Kansas

Ahh.. I was mistaken about Anderson in the UofL game. I still think UVA is pretty much a lock for a #1.

Anderson is back now, so I don't think they'll get penalized for him being back. Who's going to have a better overall resume? Arizona's resume isn't there (hell, I'd argue it's barely better than UofL's) and a win over Oregon isn't going to change that. I still think UVA's resume is ahead of Duke and Nova. Duke's isn't getting any better, and I'm not sure a win over Xavier is going to do it for Nova.

You're the first person I've seen even acknowledge Gonzaga might still be in play for a 1 seed. I don't think they're a viable 1 at this point.

I think in order (assuming everyone still alive wins out)

1) UK
2) UVA
3) Wisconsin
4) Nova
5) Duke
6) Arizona
7) Gonzaga
8) Kansas

 

[Wamu]

Go Tar Heels!

 

[douggie]

I wouldn't assume that at all. East coast bias is very real. I find it unlikely that Arizona will get a one over either of those teams.



Your take is probably the right one. But this is Duke. They are not going to be a 2 seed and you know it. Hell, they got a 3 seed last year when they were more like a 5 or 6 seed with the way that they played all year.

That name is worth at least one seed line, and I fully expect them to get a 1.[/QUOTE]

I get that, but if you're the committee and UVA has lost two of their last three, you have to wonder if they are a legit #1 seed without a fully healthy Justin Anderson. Timing of losses matter, and with Nova, Wisconsin, and Arizona all on long winning streaks to end the season, the eye test says all three are playing better basketball right now. UVA has not looked good lately.



I wouldn't assume that at all. East coast bias is very real. I find it unlikely that Arizona will get a one over either of those teams.



Your take is probably the right one. But this is Duke. They are not going to be a 2 seed and you know it. Hell, they got a 3 seed last year when they were more like a 5 or 6 seed with the way that they played all year.

That name is worth at least one seed line, and I fully expect them to get a 1.

I don't know Duke will be a #1 seed and neither do you. If they do, then I take it by that up vote the committee takes in the fact that Duke's resume is damn strong. Five Wins against Top-25, two of which came against potential #1 seeds on their home court. Only Kansas has more wins against Top 25 teams. Tell me again how many Top 10 teams Arizona has beaten away from the state of Arizona.

 

[bksballer89]

Said it last week and will say it again.

Duke by far has the best road wins in the country and that gotta count for something

 

[TrollyMcTroller]

Said it last week and will say it again.

Duke by far has the best road wins in the country and that gotta count for something

Of course it should count for something. Everything every team does should count for something. If you're suggesting that having the best road win just magically get's you a 1 seed, I think you're nuts. If not, I'm puzzled why you chose to bring that one specific piece of trivia up.

 

[bksballer89]

Of course it should count for something. Everything every team does should count for something. If you're suggesting that having the best road win just magically get's you a 1 seed, I think you're nuts. If not, I'm puzzled why you chose to bring that one specific piece of trivia up.

Not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that it won't be some highway robbery like some on here are suggesting if Duke gets a 1 seed because it will be deserved. There are about 7 teams who deserve a # 1 seed based on their resume (assuming Wisconsin/Zona win their conference title game).