Dwight Howard to Golden State?

[Ray_Dogg]

Woj mentions Warriors and DH.
Y! SPORTS

 

[CameronFrye]

Woj mentions Warriors and DH.
Y! SPORTS

I think the Dubs would be better served taking Robinson off the Rockets' hands than trying to get Howard.

 

[Retroram52]

You folks that think Bynum is going to play another minute of basketball best think again. Julius Erving came out this week blaming the Lakers for hiding Bynum's medical issues with his knees. Bynum's knees are so bad that he can barely walk and his future playing NBA level basketball is seriously in doubt.

Erving has suggested to the 78er's to cut their losses with Bynum and not take a chance on him wasting any more money because Bynum's knees are completed wasted. So, it is safe to say that Bynum is not going to find any takers on the FA market because he'll be addressing his medical issues just to be functional in activities of daily living like walking!

 

[CitySushi]

I think the Dubs would be better served taking Robinson off the Rockets' hands than trying to get Howard.

This might make for a good pick up, but for once the Warriors aren't looking for project players with potential. They're looking for immediate impact players who can contribute. This would be a great fall back, but I've got to believe Landry is going to be a high priority for the Warriors.

Robinson has upside, but if the Warriors resign Landry, he'll be stuck behind two guys with very limited playing opportunity. Add to that he'll be making 3.5M a year, and that money could be very well spent elsewhere.

I'm all for the Warriors getting him, but only as a fall back option.

 

[Heathbar012]

At least we aren't as delusional as Clippers' fans. They think they can get Howard for Eric Bledsoe and DeAndre Jordan.

 

[Retroram52]

If Howard is not careful, his indecisiveness and failure to commit is going to land him into a proverbial "alsoran" catgeory as his rep will start to plummet as having too much of a sideshow baggage similar to what is happening to Tebow. Then he'll be added to trades as an afterthought. Choose wisely there dude!!

 

[Heathbar012]

If Howard is not careful, his indecisiveness and failure to commit is going to land him into a proverbial "alsoran" catgeory as his rep will start to plummet as having too much of a sideshow baggage similar to what is happening to Tebow. Then he'll be added to trades as an afterthought. Choose wisely there dude!!

He is an interesting character. Obviously, your example is hyperbolic, but there is merit to the impetus. Of course, a celebrity's actual personality is likely somewhere in between half truth and half what they, their staff/entourage, the media and The League (or studios) have conjured up for them... and that's being generous to the truth. Howard is certainly gifted, but I, too, find myself wavering on if he is actually worth the headache. It depends on the team's current situation. The gamble is worth it for Atlanta and Dallas. For either LA team or GS, I don't know.

I saw one post that suggested re-signing Howard, amnestying Kobe, trading Pau for a lottery pick and expirings and signing Chris Paul. That might actually be a best-case scenario for the Lakers, if Kupchak is crazy enough to make it happen. Do you think Kobe would sign with the Heat for the league minimum?

 

[Retroram52]

Hey Heath. The hyperbole was intended to illuminate the histrionic existence of Howard these days. Re0signing him would be a resolved issue and if the Lakers can entice Paul to cross teh hall, that would be huge. I agree with the suggested scenario and that has been suggested on the tube by Stephen A. awhile back. It just may happen.

Because like it or not, the reality of an Achilles rupture is that it has a strong tendency to dissipate the bearer of it's wishes of return to greatness even if you are one Kobe Bryant who has a tendency to believe the laws of reality do not apply to him per se.

Just ask Chauncey Billups who after nearly 20 months post-injury is re-assessing his career along with the Clip joint because as he put it, he is having trouble changing directions with any authority that resembles his ability pre-injury and his jumping ability has been significantly attenuated (parphrased by me). This injury especially demands a cautious approach and it usually bears out in a disappointment in the belief system of the bearer of it. I have worked with many clients with this type of injury and I know its discouragement potential. Granted, the overwhelming majority were not of elite status say in the category of Kobe but I am well aware of the reality of the rehab and the eventual outcome.

So, yea, that scenario you outlined is entirely within the realm of possibilities especially as the draft approaches. Shoot, Kobe might even suggest amnesty himself.

 

[Heathbar012]

Hey Heath. The hyperbole was intended to illuminate the histrionic existence of Howard these days. Re0signing him would be a resolved issue and if the Lakers can entice Paul to cross teh hall, that would be huge. I agree with the suggested scenario and that has been suggested on the tube by Stephen A. awhile back. It just may happen.

Because like it or not, the reality of an Achilles rupture is that it has a strong tendency to dissipate the bearer of it's wishes of return to greatness even if you are one Kobe Bryant who has a tendency to believe the laws of reality do not apply to him per se.

Just ask Chauncey Billups who after nearly 20 months post-injury is re-assessing his career along with the Clip joint because as he put it, he is having trouble changing directions with any authority that resembles his ability pre-injury and his jumping ability has been significantly attenuated (parphrased by me). This injury especially demands a cautious approach and it usually bears out in a disappointment in the belief system of the bearer of it. I have worked with many clients with this type of injury and I know its discouragement potential. Granted, the overwhelming majority were not of elite status say in the category of Kobe but I am well aware of the reality of the rehab and the eventual outcome.

So, yea, that scenario you outlined is entirely within the realm of possibilities especially as the draft approaches. Shoot, Kobe might even suggest amnesty himself.

... and sign w/ the Lakers for the league minimum (if it's allowed), making Steve Nash the best back-up PG in the NBA (once CP3 is signed and Kobe gets back). Now, when does Brian Shaw show up?

I definitely agree about the Achilles injury. It could make the whole decision very easy for Mitch. However, there are very few people that I believe could be effective in the NBA after that type of injury, and Kobe Bryant is certainly one of them. He hasn't needed explosiveness in his game for quite some time. Chauncey Billups, OTOH... let's just say he is making a good decision flashing his "analytical prowess" regarding the demeanor of Blake Griffin.

 

[Yoshi]

Totally agree that Klay would be a mainstay in the package. I know Warrior fans have been upset with him but he's still a hot commodity among the league. He's going to be going on his 3rd year in the NBA, still on his rookie contract for another year after this upcoming season, and still has much more room to grow. He's 6'7", getting better at the defensive end and his main weapon is his shooting. Shooters of his caliber don't simply forget how to shoot. Teams will feel comfortable giving him future contracts, meaning he can be seen as a long term piece.

The sad part is that if Howard wants to go to Atlanta, they could conceivably put together the best offer if Josh Smith decides he wants to go to LA and they work out mutual sign and trade deals. It would actually be great fits for both teams. Ultimately the Lakers are not in the drivers seat, Howard is. After Brook Lopez' All-Star year(and now seemingly cap friendly contract), I doubt the Brooklyn wants to move him for Howard.

I haven't weighed in my thoughts on the Dwight Howard rumors, but here's my take on all the scenario's being thrown out there:

1) If the Warriors offered Klay, Bogut, RJ and a future 1st for Howard, the Lakers would be absolutely insane not to do that trade. In fact, I believe that all of the above is supreme overkill in the trade. If Howard wants to leave the Lakers, he has plenty of options. If he does decide to walk it will be because he's decided the Lakers aren't the best situation for him and he just wants to go to a new place with a fresh start. The only way the Lakers get anything for him is to help to facilitate a sign and trade. There isn't a team out there with a better offer of Klay and Expirings, let alone giving them Bogut and a future 1st.

2) I'm torn on whether or not I would truly want Howard on the team. On one hand he's still supremely talented and going to give you at least 75 games a year. He's going to put up 18 and 10 every night with 2 blocks a game. He could make us a perennial playoff team with the chance to go further.

On the other hand, I really love the attitude and nasty streak that Bogut has brought to our team. Howard has personality issues and I just don't know if I would want to deal with that situation with such a relatively young team. The team over-achieved this year, and really didn't face any internal adversity. We'll see what happens next year when they hit a rough patch, but I don't see this group of guys starting to point fingers. Howard is a known finger pointer.

Sorry City, I had to quote two of your posts in this hot topic.

As far as our current version of Run TMC is concerned, anyone who has read my posts knows that the player out of that 3 I'm willing to part with is Klay - his defense on Parker and other PG's has been impressive but his defense on other SG's has been not. He is a shooter who is developing his game to attack the rim but often times I just didn't think he had the type of ball handling skills necessary for a guard to be a consistent threat in attacking the paint.

As good as Bogut was for the Warriors, his injuries involving his elbow will probably deter him from being a consistent offensive threat. Granted, with the starting 1,2,3, and 4 the Dubbs have, they could afford to have a solid defensive center and still be competitive. However, Howard has a post game and can defend the rim better than any other Center in this league (I know Marc Gasol won Defensive Player of the Year but I'm taking DH12 over him).

It's a good call - a trade of Klay, Bogut, RJ, and a first would be the trade the Warriors would have to make in getting their man. They'll lose a swingman but it's easier finding those kind of players than a quality center. Plus, the FA period for 2014 is shaping up to be the big one, which is perfect timing since Beans will be out of the books by then:

'Wait till next year' takes on more meaning for Lakers, and the NBA - Los Angeles Times

NBA Betting: The 2014 NBA Free Agency War

 

[CitySushi]

Sorry City, I had to quote two of your posts in this hot topic.

As far as our current version of Run TMC is concerned, anyone who has read my posts knows that the player out of that 3 I'm willing to part with is Klay - his defense on Parker and other PG's has been impressive but his defense on other SG's has been not. He is a shooter who is developing his game to attack the rim but often times I just didn't think he had the type of ball handling skills necessary for a guard to be a consistent threat in attacking the paint.

As good as Bogut was for the Warriors, his injuries involving his elbow will probably deter him from being a consistent offensive threat. Granted, with the starting 1,2,3, and 4 the Dubbs have, they could afford to have a solid defensive center and still be competitive. However, Howard has a post game and can defend the rim better than any other Center in this league (I know Marc Gasol won Defensive Player of the Year but I'm taking DH12 over him).

It's a good call - a trade of Klay, Bogut, RJ, and a first would be the trade the Warriors would have to make in getting their man. They'll lose a swingman but it's easier finding those kind of players than a quality center. Plus, the FA period for 2014 is shaping up to be the big one, which is perfect timing since Beans will be out of the books by then:

'Wait till next year' takes on more meaning for Lakers, and the NBA - Los Angeles Times

NBA Betting: The 2014 NBA Free Agency War

Yeah the first post I made was just to reiterate that Klay is still a hot commodity, more so than preaching to keep him on the team. Klay still holds a ton of trade value. It was just a year ago that guys like Kobe and LeBron were praising the guy at the USA practices. Even though his value has diminished somewhat in Warrior fans opinions, he still holds lots of value around the league.

My main gripe with Howard is just the internal conflict he has the capability of causing. These concerns would be the exact same if we had a chance to get Demarcus Cousins. I guess the best part of all this is that in the past the Warriors wouldn't even have the option of thinking about it. If we had a chance to get a quality player we pulled the trigger before the team had a chance to rethink it.

 

[Hambombs]

What about Iggy on this team?

 

[CitySushi]

What about Iggy on this team?

I would love to get him, but we would have to do a sign and trade with Denver. I'm assuming Iggy would want at least 11M per year for a 5 year stretch. That's pretty heavy money to invest in a guy who's 29. If the Nuggets took Klay and RJ, I would definitely look into it.

 

[ColinCoby]

I love Iggy, and I wouldn't mind getting Howard. But I'd hate to lose Barnes in either trade.

I think I'd rather give this team another year of seasoning, dump Beans and Jefferson, and make key moves next summer. (especially if it means losing Barnes)

 

[Hambombs]

Dwight suppose to make a decision july 10. Suppose to meet with warriors soon also.

 

[ColinCoby]

Dwight suppose to make a decision july 10. Suppose to meet with warriors soon also.

Sign and trade is, obviously, the only way we get him.

I wonder how many of us on here would support a Barnes/Bogut for Howard trade.

I wouldn't.

 

[Hambombs]

Sign and trade is, obviously, the only way we get him.

I wonder how many of us on here would support a Barnes/Bogut for Howard trade.

I wouldn't.

Yeah I probably wouldn't either

 

[ColinCoby]

Bucher on The Warriors and Howard:


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[#1BostonFan]

Man if he went to GS that would be a hell of a team.

 

[ColinCoby]

Man if he went to GS that would be a hell of a team.

Perhaps, but if we lose Landry and Jack through free agency and Barnes via the trade, not sure there would be enough of a team left to contend.