• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

Eagles Pre Game

Caliskinsfan

Burgundy & Gold Forevah
43,311
9,030
533
Joined
Aug 15, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,569.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
You might already know this, but just change the x.com to twitter.com and the tweet will show up instead of the link.
Can’t figure whether embed or this method is easier, lol
 

kbso83432

Well-Known Member
12,094
5,281
533
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
A recap from a HH poster of some of Logan Paulson analysis on the run game…

(Edited)
Avatar for Christopher Battle

I was watching a breakdown with Logan Paulsen the former Commanders tight end and he was saying that according to the numbers in the box meaning the defensive guys in the box to stop the run vs the offensive guys to block. That Washington is running when they are supposed to with even or light boxes from the defense. Of course you can run into a heavy box but it is rarely successful. He was saying that teams are putting more defenders in the box and daring Washington to pass.

He gave an example of Henry in Tennessee running against boxes that have more defenders than offensive guys to block and he was averaging almost no yards a carry against those looks. So we can say hey just run more. But until you can make teams stop loading the box and daring us to pass I am not sure what we are going to get from just running for running sake.

He also gave an example of the Shanahan tree from when he was playing with him in Atlanta when they went to the Super Bowl and he said Shanahan or McVay and the guys from that coaching tree never run into a heavy box. They call 2 plays, one a pass and one a run and it is up to the qb to read the box and then decide at the line of scrimmage which one to run based on the numbers. So again I don't know if asking Washington just to run against teams that are putting more defenders to tackle in the box than you have people to block is going to get the results we as fans expect it to.
Wow! Teams are daring us to pass with those receivers? That speaks to the line and Howell.
 

Caliskinsfan

Burgundy & Gold Forevah
43,311
9,030
533
Joined
Aug 15, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,569.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Wow! Teams are daring us to pass with those receivers? That speaks to the line and Howell.
Post was more about the running game and when it’s effective.

While many fans want to see us running ALOT more, there are reasons that unless your watching tape, we as fans don’t see or know

That said, how quickly Sam processes, how pass pro is diagnosed and Oline strengths/weaknesses def play a role too

At least that’s my take and I’m no X and O guru, lol

Also thats no ding on our WRs (tho separation and spacing have been an issue) but Sam getting them the ball. The Oline has given enuff time by most metrics out there and of course this is par for the course for a young QB
 

kbso83432

Well-Known Member
12,094
5,281
533
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Post was more about the running game and when it’s effective.

While many fans want to see us running ALOT more, there are reasons that unless your watching tape, we as fans don’t see or know

That said, how quickly Sam processes, how pass pro is diagnosed and Oline strengths/weaknesses def play a role too

At least that’s my take and I’m no X and O guru, lol

Also thats no ding on our WRs (tho separation and spacing have been an issue) but Sam getting them the ball. The Oline has given enuff time by most metrics out there and of course this is par for the course for a young QB
No i completely understand. I read the whole thing. You cant run just for the sake of running. My point was we have a really good WR group but our line is so bad they would rather take their chances with them than allow us to run.
 

Caliskinsfan

Burgundy & Gold Forevah
43,311
9,030
533
Joined
Aug 15, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,569.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
No i completely understand. I read the whole thing. You cant run just for the sake of running. My point was we have a really good WR group but our line is so bad they would rather take their chances with them than allow us to run.
Gotcha

Why not take advantage of a young QB/Oline who is taking/giving too many sacks with pressure? Like you said until Sam throws quicker, diagnoses better, takes the checkdown etc, that’s what we will see from defenses
 

Darrell Green Fan

The Voice of Reason
24,010
6,606
533
Joined
Sep 2, 2014
Location
Mount Airy MD
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
All week long all I heard was "we need to run the ball more, especially in the first half". Well if they run a lot on Sunday they will end up with 2nd and 9 all day long.
 

Sportster 72

Well-Known Member
19,077
6,547
533
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Wow! Teams are daring us to pass with those receivers? That speaks to the line and Howell.
I listened to Logan Paulsen's and Craig Hoffman's podcast Take Command today ... it was an hour long analysis of the game. Logan is my go to guy, he said early on Buffalo was using an 8 man box. Washington was moving the ball then but repeated mistakes (TOs and sacks) were killing drives. I think I comment how few rushing yards/attempts we had at halftime. Of course that went up in the 2nd half but by the Buffalo was only playng 6 in the box.

Logan played here and in San Franscisco with Kyle as coach and in Atlanta with Matt Ryan. If you haven't listened to their podcast before I highly recommend it.
 

Sportster 72

Well-Known Member
19,077
6,547
533
Joined
Jul 17, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
No i completely understand. I read the whole thing. You cant run just for the sake of running. My point was we have a really good WR group but our line is so bad they would rather take their chances with them than allow us to run.
Logan put ONE sack on the OLine, a couple on just really tood plays by Buffalo and pretty much the rest on Sam. I think he said on the first drive when they were in the red zone one sack 3.2 seconds after the snap .... he said ball has to be out in 2.7 max. I am more demanding and said after the game said he needs to get it out in 2.5. LOL
 

kbso83432

Well-Known Member
12,094
5,281
533
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Logan put ONE sack on the OLine, a couple on just really tood plays by Buffalo and pretty much the rest on Sam. I think he said on the first drive when they were in the red zone one sack 3.2 seconds after the snap .... he said ball has to be out in 2.7 max. I am more demanding and said after the game said he needs to get it out in 2.5. LOL
Yeah i heard the Junkies rattle off the sack times. Like you said a couple were in the 4s. That is way too long. Sam missed a couple of easy checkdowns as well. I like Sam but this is part of the process.
 

redskinsfan1963

Well-Known Member
9,858
3,745
293
Joined
Jun 26, 2023
Location
bassett,va
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
don,t see how can run it with such an awful line,if it comes to passing we,ll surely lose.
 

skinz2winz

Well-Known Member
9,837
2,254
173
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Everyone realizes we are 2-1 right, lol. The same team we beat also beat Dallas last week. Its a week to week league imo. The sky isn't falling. We have a NEW OC, OL, QB & scheme, lets give this some time to marinate. My guess is all of those mentioned are working their collective tails off to right the ship and will rally around Howell.
 

Caliskinsfan

Burgundy & Gold Forevah
43,311
9,030
533
Joined
Aug 15, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,569.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
 

kbso83432

Well-Known Member
12,094
5,281
533
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Everyone realizes we are 2-1 right, lol. The same team we beat also beat Dallas last week. Its a week to week league imo. The sky isn't falling. We have a NEW OC, OL, QB & scheme, lets give this some time to marinate. My guess is all of those mentioned are working their collective tails off to right the ship and will rally around Howell.
Naive to play the schedule game but 5-2 headed into the home Eagles game isn't a hot take.
 

Rowdy

Well-Known Member
6,495
2,466
173
Joined
Dec 15, 2016
Hoopla Cash
$ 11,828.65
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I also heard another interesting take and RR kind of alluded to it in his press conference. They very well could be trying to develop Howell by calling all the passes early. After all this is pretty much a passing league. Maybe they’re more in to developing him at this point than winning
 

Caliskinsfan

Burgundy & Gold Forevah
43,311
9,030
533
Joined
Aug 15, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 4,569.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Surely trying to strike the balance between both developing and winning but have to take your lumps.

I think you’re right about RR and EB looking for that passing developmental process.

Pretty obvious to all that we can’t sustain at the current level of sacks

I expect we will see improvement as well as some continued klunker games
 

gkekoa

Well-Known Member
22,244
3,831
293
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Location
somewhere over the rainbow
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Look it up

I don’t need to look it up. I simply disagree with the analysis. I watch other QBs drop back and the pocket is usually very clean. I watch our OL and they consistently do not give a clean pocket.
 

skinz2winz

Well-Known Member
9,837
2,254
173
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Everyone realizes we are 2-1 right, lol. The same team we beat also beat Dallas last week. Its a week to week league imo. The sky isn't falling. We have a NEW OC, OL, QB & scheme, lets give this some time to marinate. My guess is all of those mentioned are working their collective tails off to right the ship and will rally around Howell.
 
Top