2022 NBA Offseason thread

[Mecca]

If he's actually 140 he's got a long way to go lol.

These guys weigh in at 140 but 99 percent of the time are closer to 170

No.

He actually is.

140 is his walking around weight.

He needs to fight at Straw weight most likely.

He couldn't beat Carla Esparza let alone Alexander Volkanoski.

 

[Mecca]

Just using Pau vs AD because their skillsets are ridiculously similar, AD is a more talented version of Pau and is a better player.

But when we are talking about something like a top 75 player of all time, that includes the full resume and Pau has that over AD.

Maybe he wouldn't if AD had better health...but there's a reason that they say the best ability is availability.

So yeah, I'd have to agree with Pau over AD right now.

.....and that is the key point of my argument: Right Now.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

No.

He actually is.

140 is his walking around weight.

He needs to fight at Straw weight most likely.

He couldn't beat Carla Esparza let alone Alexander Volkanoski.

I was a bean pole coming out HS at 140 and 6 foot. 5 9 140 gonna get that ass worked lol.

Not sure how old he is. He may have plenty of time to bulk up but it's gotta take an insane level of commitment.

 

[The Q]

I was a bean pole coming out HS at 140 and 6 foot. 5 9 140 gonna get that ass worked lol.

Not sure how old he is. He may have plenty of time to bulk up but it's gotta take an insane level of commitment.

Y’all both needed a friend like me in hs.

I wasn’t even that big. But big enough.

Plus I carried around a baseball bat that would be used to scare off bullies.

Just like sting

 

[tlance]

Absolutely.

He was left off for non-basketball reasons.

@tlance has tunnel vision.

Dame and AD's resumes are not done.

Both guys are clearly uber talented enough to make the top 75 when it's all said and done.

But, they don't deserve to be there NOW.

Pau, Dwight, Alex English and Klay have better resumes NOW.

If you wanna project the if's and maybes, sure.

But, right now...no.

Right now, is Dame even ahead of T-Mac?

My only point from the start is how are you making the list?

Is it best player?

Or best resume?

AD and Lillard don’t belong anywhere near a best resume list.

But, IMO there aren’t but maybe 3 guys pre 1970 who belong on an actual best player list either.

Unfortunately, everyone is going to think about what that means a little differently.

But to me, the best player list should be just that. Who are the best players of all time?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Y’all both needed a friend like me in hs.

I wasn’t even that big. But big enough.

Plus I carried around a baseball bat that would be used to scare off bullies.

Just like sting

Haha. Never got in many fights. Did lose one in HS. The rest I lost were inside a boxing ring. I learned to take a punch. My ring career was hardly prestigious lol.

Once I found beer i settled in about 40 pounds heavier lol.

 

[tlance]

Yeah, concede that point.

I used Duncan vs. Malone as a example of why ones stats don't necessarily tell the story of who is actually better.

Malone had the better stats.

Timmy was the better PLAYER.

I wasn't intentionally inferring that Klay and Timmy are comparable.

Only that I value Thompson over Dame for the same reason I take Duncan over Malone.

Karl is the 3 rd leading scorer in NBA History, no slouch.

But, he's not Dumcan.

As for the list....

Of all the alleged snubs, Howard, English, Mcgrady , Pau and Bosh give me pause.

I always forget about Bosh because he sacrificed self for team and he gets punished for it.

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If you want to put Dwight and McGrady on the all time list over Dame and Lillard?

I am good with that.

Dwight was the best big in the league for about 5 years and TMAC was the 2nd best wing in an era with Kobe.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's going to be a millennial shitshow.

My Daughter's little pissant boyfriend is training to become a fighter.

So, he's getting the tix presale and invited us.

He has zero chance to make it.

He's 5'9 and 140lbs of bitch...lol

lol

So's my son.

But he's 6'4" 180 and I sparred with him for fun a couple of times.

Don't know if he can make it...but he can whoop my ass...so I ain't calling him a bitch. lol

 

[tlance]

Excellent duo. Definitely slip in rankings because they didn't win a title.

I'd still take prime Zeke over Stockton but John had the much longer career. It's like Isiah had no stomach to be on a bad team. He just said fuck it. Although it was an Achilles.

I think they get bumped down a bit because they were 2 superstars teamed up in an era when superstars didn’t really team up (aside from Jordan and Pippen) and they won zero titles.

I agree they belong near the top of their all time positional lists, but probably not too 15 all time overall for me.

 

[Mecca]

I was a bean pole coming out HS at 140 and 6 foot. 5 9 140 gonna get that ass worked lol.

Not sure how old he is. He may have plenty of time to bulk up but it's gotta take an insane level of commitment.

He's 18.

So, he has time.

I actually admire the fact that he has forsaken other opportunities to concentrate on what he really wants to do with his life.

I just don't love it as a possible love match for my kid.

Like I told him, school will always be there. But, his scholarship won't.

But, at least he doesn't have to live with the what if's, even if he's living in a cardboard box.

 

[Mecca]

If you want to put Dwight and McGrady on the all time list over Dame and Lillard?

I am good with that.

Dwight was the best big in the league for about 5 years and TMAC was the 2nd best wing in an era with Kobe.

Yeah, I had a whole list in my original post.

But, @msgkings322 and I narrowed the scope to Klay for obvious reasons.

Neither of us is wrong because the criteria is so subjective.

I respect your opinion, ALWAYS, even if I don't agree.

 

[Mecca]

Y’all both needed a friend like me in hs.

I wasn’t even that big. But big enough.

Plus I carried around a baseball bat that would be used to scare off bullies.

Just like sting

Ah, you are a Crow-Sting fan....

 

[tlance]

Yeah, I had a whole list in my original post.

But, @msgkings322 and I narrowed the scope to Klay for obvious reasons.

Neither of us is wrong because the criteria is so subjective.

I respect your opinion, ALWAYS, even if I don't agree.

Likewise!

 

[Mecca]

Guilty

Suns owner Robert Sarver suspended for one year, fined $10 million

Shams Charania: NBA has suspended Suns owner Robert Sarver for one year from the Suns and Mercury organization based on league investigation. Sarver has also been fined $10 million and complete tra…

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[Mecca]

 

[The Q]

Ah, you are a Crow-Sting fan....

My all time favorite wrestler

 

[Mecca]

Damn, that's twice Cp3 got traded to a team with a cheap ass owner who loves to repeat that word.

At least Sarver isn't a slumlord, that fucks black guys, that we know of.

That inappropriate contact with men line makes me wonder.

 

[The Q]

Am I reading that wrong? Or did he get Danny ferry’d?

 

[Mecca]

Am I reading that wrong? Or did he get Danny ferry’d?

Sounds like it with the N-word.

He repeated what someone else said.

I have always been on the fence with that one.

Kanye can't sell millions of records to non-poc's and then get upset when they sing the actual lyrics to the song.

Right or wrong....

Their is a distinct difference between the word that ends in the letter A, and the one with the hard ER.

But, as a owner, executive or really anyone with any kind of common sense, you know there will be ramifications for even repeating that shit in the wrong company.

The Sparks fired their black, female GM for saying that to Candace Parker a few years back.

He knew better.

So, no sympathy.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Sounds like it with the N-word.

He repeated what someone else said.

I have always been on the fence with that one.

Kanye can't sell millions of records to non-poc's and then get upset when they sing the actual lyrics to the song.

Right or wrong....

Their is a distinct difference between the word that ends in the letter A, and the one with the hard ER.

But, as a owner, executive or really anyone with any kind of common sense, you know there will be ramifications for even repeating that shit in the wrong company.

The Sparks fired their black, female GM for saying that to Candace Parker a few years back.

He knew better.

So, no sympathy.

I feel like there is a difference when you're singing along in the car as to repeating it In the workplace