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To be fair, most of this thread is an opportunity to crap on OSU fans. It probably stems from the obnoxious clowns in your fanbase, and the way they jumped all over JoePa and PSU for the Sandusky situation. Add to that the OSU fans defending Meyer at every turn and we have a 200 pager on our hands.

Now, if this had been another prestige program not OSU, ask yourself if you'd be posting a bunch of smack like these guys about that program. I don't follow your posts well enough to know if you'd pile on or not, but it's how message boards work. Take something and run with it, let people try to defend it and we'll have us all kinds of fun.... just saying

Actually no. I'd say the same thing. People are "outraged" over someone lying to the media. Did they lie to the police or even the NCAA? Hinder any official investigations? Nope. It's very unjust to call for someones head, no matter who it is, based on no actual evidence and only he said/she said crap and their own assumptions.
 

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I listened to a lot of sports talk radio last night about this and taking it for what its worth, the consensus seemed to be that if fired, it would happen within the next 48 hours.

Seems about right, the season is a month away. If they know they are going to have to part ways they are going to do it ASAP to get the ball rolling on to the next chapter.
 

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Obviously I am anti-OSU in the fan sense. But I don't want him gone for simple football reasons. So I would suggest not painting everyone with broad strokes
He said all of the anti OSU fans, not all of the non OSU fans up here. Big difference. I think they get that some just want to pile on and have an existing agenda and others might still side against Meyer, but not out of any preconceived hatred for that team and program.
 

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Seems about right, the season is a month away. If they know they are going to have to part ways they are going to do it ASAP to get the ball rolling on to the next chapter.
I have heard some people questioning why they didn't make Schiano or Wilson the interim HC since they have previously experience. That would be a PR nightmare. You are placing the current coach in leave to investigate a domestic violence case and replacing him with a coach that has ties to the Penn St scandal or a coach that was essentially fired for abuse of his own players?
 

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The good news for the rest of the B1G is that there aren't any state colleges left in the conference to come up with scandals on.

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Yes - I gotta believe so.....These days DV is a huge deal

as is protecting those that commit DV...which is what this is about.
 

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  • This isn't a trial. Urbans not going to jail. You don't need 100% proof of everything. It's about his judgment. Haven't coaches and teams been put on probation from football for "should have known".
 

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Firing him is going to come down to just cause. If they can fire him with jc, they do not own him a cent (pending wrongful termination lawsuits aside). If they fire him without jc, they owe him over $30 million
 

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Of course Urban knew about the 2009 incident.

Why would you lie about knowing about the 2015 incident when it was known you knew about the 2009 incident?

If we want to make assumptions that makes zero sense. Unless you actually believe Urban would put himself on the line for Zach Smith,

You apparently have no idea how much power and control Urbs and his wife have over Zach Smith on his behalf. Zach Smith is like a son to them.
 

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Firing him is going to come down to just cause. If they can fire him with jc, they do not own him a cent (pending wrongful termination lawsuits aside). If they fire him without jc, they owe him over $30 million
Probably working on a buyout deal as we speak. He takes 10 million and retires off to Cuba or some shit.
 

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No I actually care that women get treated with respect. How fucked up are you that you dont. Guess what? next time I hear about some guy holding three women chained in his basement for years and beating and rping them I will care. Next time I hear about doctors molesting kids and women and yes even the scumbag at USC who I hope dies in a jail cell or better gets beat to death and USC should pay up the ass for allowing it to happen. I will care. I love football but theres no amount of winning that would make me not care about women being treated with respect. But thanks for showing us whats important to you. The mans got millions he's not going to suffer. But you're more outraged about the possibility that he could lose his job than the fact someone on his staff that he hired that did it before beat his pregnant wife. Again, how fucked up are you. (not a question)

Stop

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The "how" in the sentence does suggest that it's a question.



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He said all of the anti OSU fans, not all of the non OSU fans up here. Big difference. I think they get that some just want to pile on and have an existing agenda and others might still side against Meyer, but not out of any preconceived hatred for that team and program.
Um, I am about as anti-OSU as it gets. But I take pride in the fact I can separate my fan preferences from personal issues
 

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Another point

None of these reporters/media care for Courtney Smith. NONE. If it was the focus would've been on the abuser and not UFM.
 

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The buyout money won't be the thing that stops this. Ask the other two state colleges in the B1G if they could go back and dump some money to stave off an issue early would they go back and do that?

We are in an insanely over the top politically correct era on a train that can't be stopped or even slowed down that is looking to run the fuck over anyone/everyone even accused of something against women.

This is the wrong scandal at the wrong time, facts be damned. It really doesn't matter how much he actually knew to this mob mentality movement.
 
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