This kid may well be the best QB in the PAC 12

[socaljim242]

Jalen's problem is more about reading defenses, not accuracy. He bails on plays too early because he's unable to see where a receiver is going to be open as a result of not being able to read defenses.

Describing his problems as being arm related is just false. He has a great arm and pretty good accuracy.

He's got a strong throwing arm. He's just not very accurate. He sails many throws. His completion percentage is what it is because he's not attempting tight window throws.
If he was accurate they wouldn't have thrown out drop back passing. When they took him out in the CCG Tua used plays Hurts could not use.

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — Admitting that Alabama “protected” starting quarterback Jalen Hurts last season, head coach Nick Saban might have opened the biggest what-if question surrounding the Crimson Tide.“Sometimes later in the year when people played us in a way that we needed to be able to throw the ball, we may not have been as efficient as we would have liked to have been,” Saban said during the interview. “That was probably our fault as coaches because we protected him instead of developing him as a young player. The goal this spring, and certainly before next season, is that we can create more balance by being a better passing team to go along with what we’re able to do with our feet as a quarterback. As well as how that creates balance for our overall offense and utilizes some of the other skill players that we have which we didn’t always take advantage of last year.”Later in the day, Saban addressed the topic again, stating Alabama tried to eliminate much of its drop-back passes last season in order to allow Hurts to better utilize his abilities.Ultimately, the plan was to get Hurts the ball in a way he was most comfortable. But was it the right one?

 

[socaljim242]

I would concur 100%.........

"It’s certainly not a question of talent. Hurts possesses one of the best arms in the SEC and the ball explodes out his hand. It’s the accuracy that has been lacking"


Jalen Hurts' deep ball accuracy is a concern

 

[BigKen]

Clemson 2020-2024

 

[mcnabb7542]

"It’s certainly not a question of talent. Hurts possesses one of the best arms in the SEC and the ball explodes out his hand. It’s the accuracy that has been lacking"


Jalen Hurts' deep ball accuracy is a concern

I think he get's into trouble with leading his receivers from time to time, and I know there was talk about about his dirt balls, but I think he does it on purpose so he doesn't throw a pick....or into traffic

 

[socaljim242]

I think he get's into trouble with leading his receivers from time to time, and I know there was talk about about his dirt balls, but I think he does it on purpose so he doesn't throw a pick....or into traffic

Well I think he knows his limitations and he knows it's better to throw a ball away . He doesn't throw many picks to his credit.

 

[SC Conquest]

J.T.'s first pass in this highlight video is the most effortless 50 yard pass you will ever see

Most D1 QB's can't make that throw let alone make it look that easy

 

[Boise4Life]

#1 2019 high school QB before he reclassified. He could end up being a real stud.

 

[4down20]

He's got a strong throwing arm. He's just not very accurate. He sails many throws. His completion percentage is what it is because he's not attempting tight window throws.
If he was accurate they wouldn't have thrown out drop back passing. When they took him out in the CCG Tua used plays Hurts could not use.

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — Admitting that Alabama “protected” starting quarterback Jalen Hurts last season, head coach Nick Saban might have opened the biggest what-if question surrounding the Crimson Tide.“Sometimes later in the year when people played us in a way that we needed to be able to throw the ball, we may not have been as efficient as we would have liked to have been,” Saban said during the interview. “That was probably our fault as coaches because we protected him instead of developing him as a young player. The goal this spring, and certainly before next season, is that we can create more balance by being a better passing team to go along with what we’re able to do with our feet as a quarterback. As well as how that creates balance for our overall offense and utilizes some of the other skill players that we have which we didn’t always take advantage of last year.”Later in the day, Saban addressed the topic again, stating Alabama tried to eliminate much of its drop-back passes last season in order to allow Hurts to better utilize his abilities.Ultimately, the plan was to get Hurts the ball in a way he was most comfortable. But was it the right one?

He doesn't attempt them because he doesn't want to turn the ball over, and nothing in what you quoted says his accuracy is an issue(plus it's from before last year).

He also tends to overthrow for the same reasons, not wanting to turn the ball over.

But in the end, his problems as a passer are that he can't read defenses and he bails out of the pocket rather than stepping into it because he's unable to see where the receiver is going to be.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

meh…trojan QBs are always over rated…case in point.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Highlight videos always tell the whole story.

I'm sure he's a fine QB, but that Tate kid in Arizona will be tough to top.

 

[SC Conquest]

Highlight videos always tell the whole story.

I'm sure he's a fine QB, but that Tate kid in Arizona will be tough to top.

Tate wasn't all that tough to top last season. J.T. Daniels is better than Tate. I saw both play in high school , Tate is not even close to being as good as Daniels.

 

[WizardHawk]

meh…trojan QBs are always over rated…case in point.


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I was at the infamous "All I saw was purple" game with him at the helm coming into Husky stadium ranked 5th. At least before the game. :hehe: That was some incredible defense that day.

 

[jon2tanman]

 

[socaljim242]

He doesn't attempt them because he doesn't want to turn the ball over, and nothing in what you quoted says his accuracy is an issue(plus it's from before last year).

He also tends to overthrow for the same reasons, not wanting to turn the ball over.

But in the end, his problems as a passer are that he can't read defenses and he bails out of the pocket rather than stepping into it because he's unable to see where the receiver is going to be.

I guess you're skipping the article that says Jalen has accuracy issues in the title?
By your logic a basketball player who doesn't shoot much because he knows he's going to miss most of the time doesn't have accuracy issues with his shot.lol

 

[socaljim242]

meh…trojan QBs are always over rated…case in point.


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Yeah just a couple of Heisman winning QBs and every starting QB since 2000 drafted to the NFL and five former Trojan QB on rosters in the NFL (most of any school). But yeah other than that

 

[socaljim242]

Highlight videos always tell the whole story.

I'm sure he's a fine QB, but that Tate kid in Arizona will be tough to top.

If Tate gets the footwork, mechanics and starts to read the defense he will be if he doesn't grow in these things he will still be a highlight machine but not an efficient QB.

 

[4down20]

I guess you're skipping the article that says Jalen has accuracy issues in the title?
By your logic a basketball player who doesn't shoot much because he knows he's going to miss most of the time doesn't have accuracy issues with his shot.lol

I think for myself. I watched him play for the past 2 years, I don't give a fuck about an article. Most of the people writing those articles don't know more than the people who post here. They are only "experts" because someone hired them and people accept it as such.

There is a reason you rarely see me post in those kinds of threads about this "experts" top whatever very often. They are full of shit.

Do you want me to go and find a few articles that say the exact opposite? That he's going to win the Heisman and all that shit? Because there are plenty of them out there.

And him not throwing the ball is not about accuracy it's about taking care of the football. He threw only 1 interception ALL YEAR last year. If he had accuracy problems, he would have thrown more.

Here's that interception.

Hurts throws first interception of season - ESPN Video

He should have thrown it harder, defender jumped up on it.

 

[socaljim242]

I think for myself. I watched him play for the past 2 years, I don't give a fuck about an article. Most of the people writing those articles don't know more than the people who post here. They are only "experts" because someone hired them and people accept it as such.

There is a reason you rarely see me post in those kinds of threads about this "experts" top whatever very often. They are full of shit.

Do you want me to go and find a few articles that say the exact opposite? That he's going to win the Heisman and all that shit? Because there are plenty of them out there.

And him not throwing the ball is not about accuracy it's about taking care of the football. He threw only 1 interception ALL YEAR last year. If he had accuracy problems, he would have thrown more.

Here's that interception.

Hurts throws first interception of season - ESPN Video

He should have thrown it harder, defender jumped up on it.

Anyone whos seen him play can tell he's not accurate. He's shy about throwing because he's not accurate. The articles come from Alabama people who actually see him in person not from their couch like you. I've actually seen him play in person which is something you can't say . He's a great kid , he's a hell of an athlete. He will never get a snap at the next level as a QB because he doesn't have the accuracy. He's got a strong arm but thats not enough.He might also not read defenses well but then we'd still see some amazing throws when he does guess right but we don't, we only see throws to wide open players or badly thrown passes.

 

[4down20]

Anyone whos seen him play can tell he's not accurate. He's shy about throwing because he's not accurate. The articles come from Alabama people who actually see him in person not from their couch like you. He's a great kid , he's a hell of an athlete. He will never get a snap at the next level as a QB because he doesn't have the accuracy. He might also not read defenses well but then we'd still see some amazing throws when he does guess right but we don't we see throws to wide open players.

Fine, here:

Jalen Hurts to make fall camp interesting after good Elite 11 showing

Article from just about a week ago.

"Hurts’ goal entering fall camp is to hold off Tagovailoa and remain Nick Saban’s starter for a third straight year. If he can rid himself of his fear of making mistakes, then the competition may be closer than what most people expect."


Here's video from him at practice:

WATCH: Jalen Hurts' impressive Elite 11 Finals Pro Day workout highlights

As usual, he looks great and accurate when it's just throwing to open receivers. Put defenders, pressure and such and it becomes another story.

But hey, I guess you've watched him more than I have. After all, you did quote that one article.

 

[socaljim242]

Fine, here:

Jalen Hurts to make fall camp interesting after good Elite 11 showing

Article from just about a week ago.

"Hurts’ goal entering fall camp is to hold off Tagovailoa and remain Nick Saban’s starter for a third straight year. If he can rid himself of his fear of making mistakes, then the competition may be closer than what most people expect."


Here's video from him at practice:

WATCH: Jalen Hurts' impressive Elite 11 Finals Pro Day workout highlights

As usual, he looks great and accurate when it's just throwing to open receivers. Put defenders, pressure and such and it becomes another story.

But hey, I guess you've watched him more than I have. After all, you did quote that one article.

So when theres a defender around he can't put it in the right spot. Yeah thats called accuracy.