Butkus Award finalists

[iowajerms]

2017 Collegiate Watchlist

Devin Bush, Michigan
Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
T.J. Edwards, Wisconsin
Dorian O'Daniel, Clemson
Roquan Smith, Georgia

 

[Eco]

Should have been Dion-Hamilton on this list before his season ending injury.

I think it should be Smith, but honestly I haven't seen a lot of Edwards, Edmunds, and Bush.

 

[iowajerms]

Outside being on teams with better records, I don't see how Jewell didn't make it and Bush and Edwards did, especially Edwards.

Jewell's stats are much better and Iowa faced #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #8, #10, #11 and #14 scoring teams in B1G.

Wisconsin did not face #1, #2, They are #3,

 

[BigAppleBadger]

Outside being on teams with better records, I don't see how Jewell didn't make it and Bush and Edwards did, especially Edwards.

Jewell's stats are much better and Iowa faced #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #8, #10, #11 and #14 scoring teams in B1G.

Wisconsin did not face #1, #2, They are #3,

Better team, better defense. Isn’t it harder to get stats when you’re not the only one making plays?

 

[fishinabarrel]

Better team, better defense. Isn’t it harder to get stats when you’re not the only one making plays?

By the same state of mind it should be easier for teams to game plan for him, thus, limiting his stats

 

[BigAppleBadger]

By the same state of mind it should be easier for teams to game plan for him, thus, limiting his stats

It’s hard to game plan to avoid a linebacker. It’s not like trying to avoid a corner, or shut down an elite receiver.

 

[NolePride]

Jewell's stats are much better and Iowa faced #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #8, #10, #11 and #14 scoring teams in B1G.

I don't know that he would qualify for the Butkus Award facing those offenses. However he would be
the leader in the Clubhouse for the "Tallest Midget of the Year" award.

 

[iowajerms]

It’s hard to game plan to avoid a linebacker. It’s not like trying to avoid a corner, or shut down an elite receiver.

But shouldn't a LB making all these plays with amazing stats vs good offenses be more impressive than a LB who is surrounded by great players and his stats are not as impressive vs weaker offenses?

 

[kburjr]

Dick Butkis is getting a statue at Illinois. It'll be the 2nd honoring a player. The other, Red Grange

Dick Butkus to get statue at the University of Illinois

 

[NolePride]

Dick Butkis is getting a statue at Illinois. It'll be the 2nd honoring a player. The other, Red Grange

Dick Butkus to get statue at the University of Illinois

They should put it on the field. His statute will do more than their current defense

 

[Great Dayne]

It was probably hard for them to decide to chose just one Badger. Connley leads the team in tackles, Dooley leads the. BIG in sacks, Jacobs looks like Megatron out there and Edwards is just good at everything but not the fastest. I'm fine with Edwards since he has a pick six four ints a few sacks and sixty tackles. He won't win unless he has a monster game this week but it's nice to see him nominated.

 

[Across The Field]

It was probably hard for them to decide to chose just one Badger. Connley leads the team in tackles, Dooley leads the. BIG in sacks, Jacobs looks like Megatron out there and Edwards is just good at everything but not the fastest. I'm fine with Edwards since he has a pick six four ints a few sacks and sixty tackles. He won't win unless he has a monster game this week but it's nice to see him nominated.

Nobody knows who those people are.

 

[iowajerms]

It was probably hard for them to decide to chose just one Badger. Connley leads the team in tackles, Dooley leads the. BIG in sacks, Jacobs looks like Megatron out there and Edwards is just good at everything but not the fastest. I'm fine with Edwards since he has a pick six four ints a few sacks and sixty tackles. He won't win unless he has a monster game this week but it's nice to see him nominated.

Iowa has more than 2 on defense that has played good, but only 2 should be a finalist for awards. One is a finalist for Jim Thorpe.

Jewell has 113 total tackles - (10 games)
Edwards has 60 total tackles - (11 games)

Jewell has 59 solo tackles
Edwards has 39 solo tackles

Jewel has 4 sacks
Edwards has 2 sacks

Jewel has 7 games with 10+ total tackles
Edwards has 1 game with 10+ total tackles

Even Iowa's #2 LB has more total tackles, solo tackles, and more 10+ tackle games than Edwards.

 

[Great Dayne]

Iowa has more than 2 on defense that has played good, but only 2 should be a finalist for awards. One is a finalist for Jim Thorpe.

Jewell has 113 total tackles - (10 games)
Edwards has 60 total tackles - (11 games)

Jewell has 59 solo tackles
Edwards has 39 solo tackles

Jewel has 4 sacks
Edwards has 2 sacks

Jewel has 7 games with 10+ total tackles
Edwards has 1 game with 10+ total tackles

Even Iowa's #2 LB has more total tackles, solo tackles, and more 10+ tackle games than Edwards.

Stats are more evenly distributed on a team loaded with great players.

 

[iowajerms]

It was probably hard for them to decide to chose just one Badger. Connley leads the team in tackles, Dooley leads the. BIG in sacks, Jacobs looks like Megatron out there and Edwards is just good at everything but not the fastest. I'm fine with Edwards since he has a pick six four ints a few sacks and sixty tackles. He won't win unless he has a monster game this week but it's nice to see him nominated.

Impact player comparison

LB Comparison - I have Wisconsin player winning tie as they have more LBs

Iowa - Jewell has 113 total tackles - (10 games)
Iowa - Bower has 78 total tackles - (11 games)
Iowa - Niemann has 69 total tackles - (11 games)
Wisc - Edwards has 60 total tackles - (11 games)
Wisc - Connelly has 53 total tackles - (11 games)
Wisc - Jacobs has 44 total tackles - (11 games)
Wisc - Dooley has 34 total tackles - (11 games)

Iowa - Jewell has 59 solo tackles
Wisc - Connelly has 42 solo tackles
Iowa - Niemann has 40 solo tackles
Wisc - Edwards has 39 solo tackles
Iowa - Bower has 38 solo tackles
Wisc - Jacobs has 27 solo tackles
Wisc - Dooley has 15 solo tackles

Wisc - Dooley has 8.5 sacks
Iowa - Jewell has 4 sacks
Wisc - Jacobs has 3.5 sacks
Wisc - Edwards has 2 sacks
Wisc - Connelly has 1 sack
Iowa - Niemann has 1 sack
Iowa - Bower has 1 sack

Iowa - Jewell has 12.5 TFL
Wisc - Dooley has 9 TFL
Wisc - Jacobs has 9 TFL
Wisc - Edwards has 8.5 TFL
Wisc - Connelly has 7 TFL
Iowa - Niemann has 5 TFL
Iowa - Bower has 3.5 TFL

Iowa - Jewel has 7 games with 10+ total tackles
Iowa - Niemann has 4 games with 10+ total tackles
Wisc - Connelly has 2 games with 10+ total tackles
Iowa - Niemann has 2 games with 10+ total tackles
Wisc - Edwards has 1 game with 10+ total tackles
Wisc - Dooley has 0 games with 10+ total tackles
Wisc - Jacobs has 0 games with 10+ total tackles

Iowa's 3 LBs have the same # of total tackles compared Wisconsin's 4 LBs.
Iowa's 3 LBs have 14 more solo tackles than Wisconsin's 4 LBs.
Wisconsin's Dooley has more sacks than Iowa's 3 LBs alone. (Iowa barely blitzes, so that is not surprising.)
Wisconsin's 4 LBs have 12.5 more TFL than Iowa's 3 LBs
Iowa's 3 LBs have 10 more games with 10+ total tackles than Wisconsin's 4 LBs.

 

[iowajerms]

DL comparison - I have Iowa player win tie breaker as they have more DL

Wisc - James has 41 total tackles - (11 games)
Iowa - Bazata has 39 total tackles - (11 games)
Iowa - Hesse has 37 total tackles - (11 games)
Iowa - A. Nelson has 33 total tackles - (9 games)
Wisc - Sheehy has 27 total tackles - (10 games
Iowa - Epenesa has 14 total tackles - (10 games)
Wisc - Rand has 5 total tackles - (8 games)

Iowa - A. Nelson has 16 TFL
Iowa - Hesse has 9 TFL
Wisc - James has 7.5 TFL
Iowa - Bazata has 5.5 TFL
Wisc - Sheehy has 5.5 TFL
Iowa - Epenesa has 4.5 TFL
Wisc - Rand has 0 TFL

Wisc - James has 26 solo tackles
Iowa - Hesse has 21 solo tackles
Iowa - Bazata has 20 solo tackles
Iowa - A. Nelson has 18 solo tackles
Wisc - Sheehy has 12 solo tackles
Iowa - Epenesa has 7 solo tackles
Wisc - Rand has 2 solo tackles

Iowa - Hesse has 9 sacks
Iowa - A. Nelson has 6 sacks
Wisc - James has 5.5 sacks
Iowa - Epenesa has 4.5 sacks
Iowa - Bazata has 3 sacks
Wisc - Sheehy has 1.5 sacks
Wisc - Rand has 0 sacks

Iowa's 4 DLs have 50 more total tackles than Wisconsin's 3 DLs
Iowa's Nelson has 3 more TFL than the 3 Wisconsin's DL - Iowa's 4 DLs have 22 more than Wisconsin's 3 DL
Iowa's 4 DLs have 26 more solo tackles than Wisconsin's 3 DLs
Iowa's 4 DLs have 15.5 more sacks than Wisconsin's 3 DLs

 

[iowajerms]

Iowa's main front 7 has 50 more total tackles than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 10 more TFL than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 40 more solo tackles than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 3 more sacks than Wisconsin's 3 DLs.

 

[Great Dayne]

Iowa's main front 7 has 50 more total tackles than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 10 more TFL than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 40 more solo tackles than Wisconsin's main front 7.
Iowa's main front 7 has 3 more sacks than Wisconsin's 3 DLs.

Those statistics don't tell the entire story. Again because the Badgers are a better all around defense they aren't allowing as many first downs. Which is why Iowa has allowed offenses to take 121 more snaps against them. That's 121 more tackles, 121 more opportunities for tackles for loss, 121 more opportunities for sacks, etc. It's easier to stat pad with an inferior defense. This is why players from the best defenses are normally given the nod even with inferior all around stats.


Edwards hasn't been the best in the game statistically but he makes game changing plays, does everything very well, is all over the field and is the leader on what is arguably the best defense in the country.

 

[Great Dayne]

Nobody knows who those people are.

You will know soon enough. I can't guarantee our LB's won't knock another QB out of the game but JT Barrett is a little bitch so....

 

[Across The Field]

You will know soon enough. I can't guarantee our LB's won't knock another QB out of the game but JT Barrett is a little bitch so....

LOL you're on a roll. How are you gonna explain this one? Is it because he's better than any Wisconsin QB ever and you're jealous you don't have him this year?