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Will Bogdan Bogdanovic end up playing for the Bucks in the postseason?

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  1. buckalis

    buckalis Well-Known Member

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    There many things that are hinting this could be the case...

    1. Bogdan will be a free agent next season and he declined extending for the Kings.

    2. Bogdan wants to be a starter and then at his 27th year of age, wants to be a starter on a contending for the title team.

    3. The Bucks are among the few teams that can pay for Bogdanovic and can give him a good contract extension for the following four seasons.

    4. The Kings can't retain Bogdan without moving into the lux tax in the following couple of seasons.

    5. Bogdan can't be traded to a team he doesn't want to be at, because he will then refuse to extend his contract during the following off-season.

    6. The Kings can still fight for the 8th playoff seed in the West, but need more good players to achieve it and the Bucks have exactly what the Kings need to spare.

    7. Other than strengthening up for this season, the Kings will want to advance their future potential and the Bucks have that to offer too.

    This would have excellent chances to work:

    Kings receive: Wes Matthews, Ersan Ilyasova, Jaylen Adams + a 1st pick (from Pacers No15-17)...

    Bucks receive: Bogdan Bogdanovic, waive Cam Reynolds from the 2-way roster spot and re-sign him to the empty regular roster spot after the trade, sign (and trade) Jaylen Adams from the Wiscosin Herd to a 2-way contract and also sign Rayon Tucker or Jemerio Jones, or Luke Maye on the empty 2-way roster spot after the trade.
     



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    The possibility of the Bucks being after Bogdanovic, which I've spotted and already posted during the preseason on another forum, has also been spotted by the majority of sports reporters and is now highly circulating around the web:

    Bucks Rumors: Bogdan Bogdanovic Could Be ‘Best Option’ To Replace Malcolm Brogdon, Per ‘The Ringer’

    Would run at Bogdan Bogdanovic fill Malcolm Brogdon void for Milwaukee Bucks?

    NBA Rumors: Sacramento's Bogdan Bogdanovic Likely Candidate For Milwaukee As Middleton To Miss Games

    NBA Rumors: Bucks Could Trade For Bogdan Bogdanovic

    The trade, in which the Bucks have little (if any at all) competition, if happens, should secure the Bucks as being considered the favorites to win the NBA championship for this and the following seasons since the Bucks would then have a dreadful starting roster on Bledsoe (PG), Bogdanovic (SG), Middleton (SF), Giannis (PF) and BroLopez (CF), but amazing roster depth too on Hill, Divincenzo, Brown, Connaughton, Wilson and Rolopez secured for many seasons to follow...
     
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    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    His entire post is based on a severe flaw:

    Bogdan is an RFA in 2020. He declined a $51 million extension because he probably thinks he can sign an offer sheet for more next summer. He might be right. And the Kings refusing to offer more this past summer does not mean they won’t offer match a bigger offer next summer. They tried to get him on a “team friendly deal” and failed.

    Bogdan is an RFA. So he does not have any leverage in determining where he might be traded. Wherever he goes, that team would have the right to match, or not match any contract offer he receives on the open market.
     
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    Why you reply stupid all the time?

    1. The Kings can't offer more or match a 4/85-100M offer from the Bucks, because they have to extend FOX a season later and then to extend BAGLEY another season later...

    It will mean for them entering deep into the tax only to retain what they have and going nowhere...

    2. Bogdan isn't staying to a team that he is coming from bench.

    3. Bogdan being 27, means that this is his chance to join a contending for the title team... If he signs a four year contract with a team that is going nowhere now, he'll never have this chance again...

    Hello... Mcflyyyy!
     
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    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    LOL.

    He is a restricted FA.

    The Kings can trade him anywhere they want, because whoever trades for him will be able to resign him.

    And the Kings May choose to trade him if in fact they determine that they can’t afford to pay what he might command on the market. Like what the Bucks did with Brogdon.

    But your failure is in your assumption that the Bucks somehow have an advantage because there won’t be a market for Bogdanovich.

    That is wrong, because again, Bogdanovich is a restricted FA and whoever deals for him will be able to resign him if they want. Bogdan does not have leverage that an unrestricted free agent would have.
     
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    Again... Not many (if any) can pay what the Bucks can McFly, not after the past off season alright... If you know any, you better present a valid suggestion that the Kings would value higher than what the Bucks can offer in order to make it in that 8th roster spot and secure the Kings will be progressing further in the future...

    You obviously don't read what you are replying upon, thus forcing one repeating what has already being posted and explained...

    Who can offer Matthews and Ilyasova's game quality (in order for the Kings to make the playoffs this season) + a (promising) asset (any out of the 5-6 players the Kings can chose among) + a mid-1st McFly?
     
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    You trade package is fine.

    I actually think it might be too much.

    I was commenting on your Buck centric idea that other teams couldn’t deal for Bogdan.

    Other teams could.

    And if the Bucks choose to pay Bogdan over paying Brogdon, then damn. That is a choice they may regret for a long time.

    It is decisions like those that can prove to be the difference between building a dynasty and failing in the playoffs and then subsequently losing your franchise player.
     
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    You really are proven stupid now after this post...

    The Bucks didn't pay Brogdon because it would have to be from this season idiot! (which would bring them into the tax)...

    Additionally, they wouldn't have Matthews or the picks to trade...

    The Bucks will have to pay Bogdan for the 20-21 season if they will trade for him and can do so without paying a penny in tax...

    There are 11M more than their current salaries the Bucks will be able to use next season (141M projected lux tax threshold), + 3M of dead cup becoming alive (from Howes) + 10M if they trade Ilyasova and Matthews going out of the books after the trade = 24M!

    This is essential for the Bucks, because they will be entering into the tax during the 21-22 season (due to extending Giannis) and then they can stay there for three seasons after which Middleton's contract will expire...

    But then again, Horst won the "executive of the year" award last season...
     
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    No man.

    I get all that.

    You said, that Middleton and Brogdon would sign “team friendly deals”.

    Middleton signed a max contract (like I said he would) and the Bucks had to move Brogdon because they couldn’t afford to pay him market value. All to avoid the tax before Giannis’ free agent year.

    You were very wrong. Then you put everybody on ignore instead of owning it.

    You haven’t been right about anything yet, and you have the gall to call others stupid when they call you on obvious mistakes.

    Classic.

    And for the record, Milwaukee’s refusal to pay tax last summer is going to cost them. If they don’t get a title in the next 2 years, they probably never will.
     
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    No you don't... you posted "His entire post is based on a severe flaw:" in your 1st post, which proves you an idiot...

    I guess Brogdon did sign the team friendliest deal possible... Brogdon didn't have his payday yet and therefore could just leave the Bucks... But instead, he agreed on a "sign and trade" which provided the Bucks with significant trade value... He also won't play against the Bucks in any of the four games the Pacers will have against the Bucks...

    You don't understand how this (very different than any other in the league) team works, nor you can ever imagine the locker room relations that exists in the Bucks "family"... The Bucks are even better this season and will be even better during the postseason... Even Jabari wants to return (which again is very possible to happen).

    Bucks will win many championships until Giannis career is over... more than you can ever imagine. They will be better in each and every next season for all the next decade...
     
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    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    Look at #5

    That is blatantly wrong.

    It is the severe flaw in your logic that makes everything else moot.

    I think the Kings might trade Bogdan for the package you suggest.

    But your assessment on the rest is off base and biased as normal.
     
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    What is wrong , is your state of mind... unless of course you can specify what is wrong on "everything else" as you say...

    Mind you that all the reasoning is the same as the sports reporters state as valid in the rumors that dominate the web... But I guess you think you are smarter than anybody else...

    I can't remember you in other than arguing by saying nonsense in here in each and every post you have ever quoted... You are just an idiot who thinks people have the mood to spent pages of writing only to to argue with your ill minded state.
     
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    tlance Kyrie Hater

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    LOL.

    Look man. You really need to get a reality check.

    This has to be an act, right?

    I am here to talk basketball. Yeah, I call people out when they say dumb stuff. You say more dumb stuff than most, so I call you out a lot.

    But given your history, you have a lot of nerve to call anybody an idiot.

    Your predictions last summer were mind numbingly wrong. Many, including me told you that last summer which prompted most of the “arguments”. You were proven wrong on just about everything you said from the Bucks players accepting team friendly deals, JR Smith and George Hill being the “most valuable contracts in the NBA”, the AD saga, KD signing in Chicago along with many more hot takes.

    Then, you throw a fit and put everybody on ignore.

    Now, you come back and actually have the nerve to talk down to people like you actually know anything after all that happened last summer.

    Too funny.
     
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    Only that you never talk basketball... you JUMP from one subject to the other, invent sayings that were never said and put them on the others mouth and never reply when you are caughtwhen you claimed that the Lakers can trade saying nonsense...

    Remember when I exposed your ignorance on the CBA when you claimed that the Lakers can trade outside the 125% trade rule because they are under the soft cup although with only six players under contract?

    But why go far? What are you arguing upon in this subject?

    The web is full of the rumor although there is no info from the (sealed) Bucks F.O mouths, the resoning stated behind the subject is beyond deny and valid till the last dot (which is what lead the rumor on the web after many reporters realized the situation) and yet you are arguing...

    I guess even you can't see what you are arguing with...

    LOL... you was even forced to agree that the proposal on the actual trade is perfectly feasible and hard to match from another team and yet you are still arguing...

    My suggestion is that visiting a shrink may help you a lot...
     
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    Seriously?

    Except that that was a rule you made up.
     
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    @buckalis

    Go back and look.

    Yeah, I said you were wrong, and said why. Talking basketball.

    You get all but hurt and come back with name calling because you can’t refute the facts I brought up.

    And you have literally been wrong about EVERYTHING you have posted here.

    You aren’t educating anybody.
     
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    Serious idiot... you can't trade outside the salary matching rule of the CBA unless you end up with at least 13 players under regular contract.
     
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    LOL... You again prove to be insane...

    you failed to reply in this which preceeded:

    "Why you reply stupid all the time?

    1. The Kings can't offer more or match a 4/85-100M offer from the Bucks, because they have to extend FOX a season later and then to extend BAGLEY another season later...

    It will mean for them entering deep into the tax only to retain what they have and going nowhere...

    2. Bogdan isn't staying to a team that he is coming from bench.

    3. Bogdan being 27, means that this is his chance to join a contending for the title team... If he signs a four year contract with a team that is going nowhere now, he'll never have this chance again...
    "

    and you goofed by doing so, because you then realized that after this reply of mine, you was proven to enter a subject only for sick argumentative purposes... I therefore am not "calling you names"... You are a proven idiot! (unless if you can answer it now... but then again you'll never admit you goofed...)

     
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    LOL.

    All your points build in 1 another.

    Your conclusion was that the Bucks would trade for him and would not have any competition on the trade market.

    If I prove 1 point wrong (which I did) the entire argument is moot.

    I agree with 1 and 2. 3 might also be true.

    Yet your conclusion is still wrong because you messed up # 5

    In other words you made the mistake.
     
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    Yeah,

    I am no cap expert,

    But off season trades are agreed to all the time before rosters are complete.

    And again, LOL at YOU calling ME an idiot.

    That is priceless.

    I can find a few of my favorite quotes from you if you want to play the “who is the idiot game”