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Why haven't the Brewers won more in the playoffs?

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The more the Brewers continue their astonishing stretch of baseball, the more I wonder when it will result in October success. You'd think that their playing style would translate well to the postseason because it doesn't rely on any one player carrying the load, and yet they've gone just 2-10 since 2019. Even given the small sample, that's a pitiful run of performance. Maybe 6-10 would be excusable, but 2-10 seems like more than a fluke. It could be that the team is just made up of chokers and can't handle the moment, but it hasn't been the same guys every year either. Also, there's not a single reason for all the losses you can point to.

Still, I have a hard time seeing Milwaukee as this model franchise when they've won only THREE playoff series in their existence (that's fewer than the Mariners, who are eight years younger) and last claimed a pennant when E.T. was in theaters. The worst part is I feel like this is the ceiling for small-market teams. All the longest World Series droughts except the Mets and Blue Jays are from franchises outside the top 10 largest metro areas. The last time a small-ball team won it all was the 2014-15 Royals, who had to suffer nonstop for almost 30 years prior, and you have to go back a generation or two for the example before that. As much as I don't want a lockout to wipe an entire season off the map, there's just so much more margin of error the Yankees and Dodgers can afford and still contend for championships. If this Milwaukee team that's on pace for over 100 wins can't get it done, when will they?

I'm not hating on the Brewers here. I would be thrilled if they made/won the WS. But until it (winning in the postseason) happens it's going to overshadow everything they do right, and that sucks. Just curious as to what specific causes might be in play.
 
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Last year it seemed like they got knocked out by a perfect cataclysm of events. I missed the game they were eliminated, woke up the next day and couldn't believe what I was seeing.

A couple of their series losses (Dodgers, Braves) they were simply up against very tough opposition. Up until last year the team that eliminated the Brewers from the playoffs always went on to the World Series.

As for 2020, their wild card roster that year was pretty atrocious, partially because of injuries, look it up.
 
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I think it's more simply that their teams have been more good than great. They're run very well for a lower payroll team and they get the most out of their rosters, but I wouldn't say they've had any particularly amazing teams. If they keep up their current performance, this would be their first season with a pythag W-L above .600 (.614). They've won 90+ games in four of the last seven seasons, but never more than 96 and they've had a penchant for outperforming their pythag W-L. I think a fair amount of that comes down to their usual excellent bullpens and Counsell's management. These recent rosters remind me of the mid-2010s Royals and Rays.


As for this year, I wouldn't say they have a particularly amazing rotation or lineup, but excellent defense and bullpen. Not many holes in the lineup, 8 guys with regular playing time with an OPS+ above 110 so it's a fairly deep lineup at least (and even a guy like Durbin that's got a 99 OPS+ plays very good defense). The defense helps their starters beat their ERA predictors (FIP, xFIP). They're also stealing a lot of bases, even if the SB% isn't that great. And even going back to the rotation, it is looking different with Misiorowski and a healthy Woodruff. Too bad Henderson got hurt, I really like him
 
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If history plays out, they'll find a way to break my heart again.
 

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**** the brewers
 

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I think it's more simply that their teams have been more good than great. They're run very well for a lower payroll team and they get the most out of their rosters, but I wouldn't say they've had any particularly amazing teams. If they keep up their current performance, this would be their first season with a pythag W-L above .600 (.614). They've won 90+ games in four of the last seven seasons, but never more than 96 and they've had a penchant for outperforming their pythag W-L. I think a fair amount of that comes down to their usual excellent bullpens and Counsell's management. These recent rosters remind me of the mid-2010s Royals and Rays.


As for this year, I wouldn't say they have a particularly amazing rotation or lineup, but excellent defense and bullpen. Not many holes in the lineup, 8 guys with regular playing time with an OPS+ above 110 so it's a fairly deep lineup at least (and even a guy like Durbin that's got a 99 OPS+ plays very good defense). The defense helps their starters beat their ERA predictors (FIP, xFIP). They're also stealing a lot of bases, even if the SB% isn't that great. And even going back to the rotation, it is looking different with Misiorowski and a healthy Woodruff. Too bad Henderson got hurt, I really like him
True, but the teams they're facing aren't invincible. The last two years they've played 6-seeds in the first round, and the 2021 Braves only won 88. And there's no reason to expect the deep lineup and incredible defense/baserunning to disappear when the playoffs roll around.
 

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True, but the teams they're facing aren't invincible. The last two years they've played 6-seeds in the first round, and the 2021 Braves only won 88. And there's no reason to expect the deep lineup and incredible defense/baserunning to disappear when the playoffs roll around.
Their defense and baserunning wasn't as well honed and distinct from much of the rest of the league as it is now. It helps how some of their draft picks like Frelick and Turang have panned out. They have been specifically targeting those types of players. Before that they had a stretch where just about all of the prospects of theirs who were excelling had been pitchers.
 

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I should also mention the William Contreras trade. They are a different team with him. The fact that they only gave up Esteury Ruiz to get him was ridiculous; I had a feeling at the time they pulled that off they were going to be a problem.
 

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I should also mention the William Contreras trade. They are a different team with him. The fact that they only gave up Esteury Ruiz to get him was ridiculous; I had a feeling at the time they pulled that off they were going to be a problem.
Yeah I have no problem with how the team is constructed, but I don't know why it hasn't carried over.

I'm worried because I see a club that's genuinely elite, knowing that they could match up with the Padres, go LWLL and the season's over with no guarantee they'll ever have this good of a chance again.
 

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Yeah I have no problem with how the team is constructed, but I don't know why it hasn't carried over.

I'm worried because I see a club that's genuinely elite, knowing that they could match up with the Padres, go LWLL and the season's over with no guarantee they'll ever have this good of a chance again.
They have 2 top 10 prospects right now and that's not counting Misiorowski and a well regarded farm system beyond that. They're probably one of a small number of teams right now that could have a realistic chance at trading for someone like, idk, Corbin Carroll, Nick Kurtz or James Wood if they wanted to go that direction. They may be scary for awhile.
 

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IIRC they had two teams that really had a chance to win a WS here in the past 15 years. One ran into a hot Cardinals team that won the WS, one ran into the Dodgers and took them to 7.

They'll have another shot this year.
 

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IIRC they had two teams that really had a chance to win a WS here in the past 15 years. One ran into a hot Cardinals team that won the WS, one ran into the Dodgers and took them to 7.

They'll have another shot this year.

Council blew that Dodgers series in game 6....lost his nerve and then lost the game and the series
 

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Council blew that Dodgers series in game 6....lost his nerve and then lost the game and the series
In 2018 the Brewers won game 6 and lost 7 so I don't know what you mean here
 

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In 2018 the Brewers won game 6 and lost 7 so I don't know what you mean here.


I guess that's what I get for relying on old people memory...it was game 4 which they lost in 13 innings 2-1. Doesn't matter as the results are what they are.
 

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The ball in glove logo has got to be top 5 in the logo category then throw in the grill patch on the city connect unis......manifique
I wonder why they ever moved away from that logo. The replacement looked like a Notre Dame rip-off

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I wonder why they ever moved away from that logo. The replacement looked like a Notre Dame rip-off

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Because this is better IMO
 

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