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My bad I didn't know they split the MVP 10 ways. If they gave away a MVP car/truck would they drive it every 10 days each, or 1 month a year?

Only a complete fool would compare football in the 70's to modern day, no hitting and pass crazy arena football league......
 

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Only a complete fool would compare football in the 70's to modern day, no hitting and pass crazy arena football league......

Only a total fool would say....no hitting in todays NFL



Compare NFL defenders in the 70's vs those guys.
 

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How many times did we hear.......Wilson won because of LEGION OF BOOM, BEASTMODE.....what is different?
Don't get me wrong both D's were the best of their times. I loved watching the Steel Curtain with Mean Joe, Greenwood etc, but the QB still has to make the throws, Russell put up plenty of points in both SB's , so not sure why people say that. Guys like Dilfer, sure and Mannings D bailed his ass out in both SB wins, The first was more the playoffs throwing only 3rds/7int but Von Miller was the offense on 2nd SB win
 

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Only a total fool would say....no hitting in todays NFL



Try watching some roughing the passer calls from this past season......
 

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Only a total fool would say....no hitting in todays NFL



Compare NFL defenders in the 70's vs those guys.
Sorry don't watch Dancing with the Stars, those 2 guys win?
 

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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana

After that...man...its just a list of 20 or so greats around the same level. I'm not even sure how you're supposed to grade this because the eras have changed too much. Leaning towards Bart Starr at #4 but he doesn't have longevity that some of the other guys do. If I was going by stats then Brees would be #4.
 

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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Joe Montana

After that...man...its just a list of 20 or so greats around the same level. I'm not even sure how you're supposed to grade this because the eras have changed too much. Leaning towards Bart Starr at #4 but he doesn't have longevity that some of the other guys do. If I was going by stats then Brees would be #4.

Having those three and Brees pretty much the norm.
 

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Having those three and Brees pretty much the norm.
Brees is 6, 11, 9 and 10 so far on everyone's lists. So unless Norm just walked into the room I'm a little confused.
 

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No not about opinons varying chuckles, you cannot talk top 20 QB's without the 8th ranked TD thrower and the 11 ranked passing yards and a Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton.
I just did Chuckles

the bigger the game, the bigger the choke job
11 TD's Vs 17 Int's ain't top 20 in my book

ME?....I think you're a fool listing in the top 20

Good News....It's my opinion, get the fuck over it ass CLOWN!!!!
 

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Yes its called longevity. Reason Brady, Brees, Manning and Favre have huge no#s is games played. Like I said the other day, Karl Malone has more points than Jordan, in fact I believe 2nd most of all -time, but never talked about when you mention greats. With the rules to protect the QB, they play much longer today
Yeah, Malone is 2nd on the list. Don't remember the exact number, damn near 39,000. He's also 7th on the most rebounds list. I believe he's currently 15th on the ever changing greatest NBA players list. I wouldn't say he never gets talked about when a greatest ever discussion comes up. But its mostly about how him, Stockton n Charles would probably have a title or 2 had they not had to deal with Jordan.

Carmelo just entered the top ten on the scoring list passing Elvin Hayes.
 

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I just did Chuckles

the bigger the game, the bigger the choke job
11 TD's Vs 17 Int's ain't top 20 in my book

ME?....I think you're a fool listing in the top 20

Good News....It's my opinion, get the fuck over it ass CLOWN!!!!

A top 20 All Time NFL QB list and Fran Tarkenton isn't listed.

Dude, you might wanna cool all this stupid.....get the fuck over it ass CLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!. ya look.....ROOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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No not about opinons varying chuckles, you cannot talk top 20 QB's without the 8th ranked TD thrower and the 11 ranked passing yards and a Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton.

Agree, you need to bring Matt Stafford, Vinny Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco and Kerry Collins into the discussion.....They threw for a ton of yards and are in the top 20 of passing yards all time.....
 

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Agree, you need to bring Matt Stafford, Vinny Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco and Kerry Collins into the discussion.....They threw for a ton of yards and are in the top 20 of passing yards all time.....

How many of them are in the Hall of Fame?

So a Hall of Famer who is in the top 15 stat wise can't make the top 20, really?


 
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How many of them are in the Hall of Fame?

So a Hall of Famer who is in the top 15 stat wise can't make the top 20, really?

None are in the HOF, but look at the bunch above that put up huge numbers which was sarcasm btw......you were justifying Tarkenton's stats and I showed you a bunch of below avg QB's that rank in the top 20 of passing yards.....Tarkenton is 15th all time in pass attempts all time also......
 

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None are in the HOF, but look at the bunch above that put up huge numbers which was sarcasm btw......you were justifying Tarkenton's stats and I showed you a bunch of below avg QB's that rank in the top 20 of passing yards.....Tarkenton is 15th all time in pass attempts all time also......

Why not just.....Oops forgot Tarkenton....which is what actually happened.
 
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