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Brother, defunding the police means shutting down the department, not a line item veto......and standing in a freeway blocking traffic, pulling random people out of their trucks and beating them because they are white is indeed a terrorist act.
Not sure what you’re reading but, hey, go with it my man.
Sounds like you’re watching the riots that occurred in LA after those police officers got off for beating Rodney King received. You need to fast forward about 28 years or so. That was the final spark that ignited a smoldering powder keg. It doesn’t excuse the beating Reginald Denny received and those guys involved all went on trail. Fortunately there were others, who were Black, took him to the hospital. So as you said, as I, you have good and bad in everything.
 

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BLM isn’t placing race above others. Not sure how you equate them to a terrorist organization, but that also seems to be the latest rhetoric going around.

This is where it is coming from


Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

This Was reported from Breibart, not sure if it is true or not, there is so much fake stuff left and right that I don't pay to much attention to stuff.


While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.

She described to Democracy Now! how she became a trained organizer with the Labor/Community Strategy Center, which she called her “first political home” under the mentorship of Mann, its director, Breitbart reported.

The center, which describes its philosophy as “an urban experiment,” uses grassroots organization to “focus on Black and Latino communities with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, pro-communist resistance to the US empire,” according to the outlet.

It also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US Communist Party, “especially Black communists,” as well as its support for “the great work of the Black Panther Party, the American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s,” Breitbart reported.


The following part I know is true, if it has to do with her or not I don't know, nor am I interested in doing the research to find out.

In 1968, Mann was a coordinator for Students for a Democratic Society, from which a more radical wing –- the Weather Underground — was splintered the following year.

It was led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who called for “direct action” over civil disobedience, seeking the overthrow of the US government. In 1969, the FBI classified the group as a domestic terror organization.

Here is an artical that goes both ways


Is Black Lives Matter Marxist? No and Yes. | Brad Polumbo


I don't understand the fuss that went on about Michael Brown, it has been proven his friend lied and made up the whole hands up don't shoot bullshit that went on. Michael Brown was a thug that beat up an elderly minority shop owner to steal from him while he was high on drugs, he then attacked and beat a police officer and tried to steal his gun, he got put down in the process of these things. I have no compassion for him, while I do feel sorry for his mother.

Some of these shootings by police are entirely unjustified, some can be avoided by following the laws. When you fight and flee with a police officer no good is going to come from it, for either side.


All I can say is I'm glad I'm not a young Black man in this world. I don't have to worry about some of the things they do.
 

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Brother, defunding the police means shutting down the department, not a line item veto......and standing in a freeway blocking traffic, pulling random people out of their trucks and beating them because they are white is indeed a terrorist act.

It is not true or maybe not true in some areas...Defunding in this instance is a convoluted term that you could juxtaposition the same definition as a bankruptcy/ corporate reorganization plan... it is also used in some instances to break a Union... Other than a Militia in the Mountains of Montana there is no one advocating for less police...just better trained police...

Like this guy shot 7 times... I don't care what kind of scumbag he maybe in real life...we all have issues ....for a cop to say he was going for a knife...and gets shot not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, not 5 times, not 6 times...but 7 TIMES in the BACK...sure doesn't sound like a cop in defense mode or using his weapon to subdue ..does it?...

Cops have tough jobs...I respect the hell out of them...I know the violent crimes that get committed in Washington DC and Baltimore all the time...but you never see a more advanced train Police Officer ever show up in these videos using poor technique or unloading a weapon...seriously have you ever watched a video of a SWAT officer doing some of this stuff?
 

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No helmet sticker or social movement will stop me from watching and rooting for my Mounties.

I don't agree with the BLM movement and its views, however, the motivation for the movement is shared by many, including members of our football team. A helmet sticker acknowledges this with the support of the administration. This is a relatively quiet way for students to share solidarity and raise awareness for something that still remains an issue for many.

With that said, I am against using sports as a tool for social justice or change. If players want to speak out, let them use the interview room and make their statements as a member of society and not as a sports star. Sports are an escape for people and entertainment. Divisiveness should be because of the opponent and not because of social or political issues.

When I don my Gold and Blue and travel to Morgantown, I am not a republican or democrat, I am not black, white or brown, I AM A MOUNTAINEER!
 

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I have to ask... why would anyone feel threatened by the leaders of BLM admitting they studied Marxism and accept this ideology? I’m no expert on Marxism, but there were a lot of solid points the man made late in the 19th century.

Again... I’m an old white guy, but I could see how blacks in America could look to this philosophy and promote it here. I’d say the same for white women. There is a known glass ceiling for minorities in our country. We know that women and minorities often make less money than their white male peers.
 

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Anytime you can throw in Marxism, Communism, Socialism and tie it to someone or a group, then that is all that is needed. Marxism, as far as I understand, is revolting against Capitalism and making a classless society. This way the people have more control and reap the benefits of their labor. So any thought of revolting against Capitalism sparks a view of an attack against the US.

A lot of this rose it's head again in the 60's, during the Vietnam War and the Civil Rights movement. The FBI classified many groups as terrorists or Communist. Hoover had everyone of these groups infiltrated. Nixon was a big proponent of having this done and became the law and order. So any low hanging fruit, like a co-founder of BLM who studied Marxism is automatically a terrorist who is ready to overthrow the country.
 

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No helmet sticker or social movement will stop me from watching and rooting for my Mounties.

I don't agree with the BLM movement and its views, however, the motivation for the movement is shared by many, including members of our football team. A helmet sticker acknowledges this with the support of the administration. This is a relatively quiet way for students to share solidarity and raise awareness for something that still remains an issue for many.

With that said, I am against using sports as a tool for social justice or change. If players want to speak out, let them use the interview room and make their statements as a member of society and not as a sports star. Sports are an escape for people and entertainment. Divisiveness should be because of the opponent and not because of social or political issues.

When I don my Gold and Blue and travel to Morgantown, I am not a republican or democrat, I am not black, white or brown, I AM A MOUNTAINEER!

I here you brother...but if you have have an advantage of using a pulpit to get your message out I am all for it.the POTUS uses the Bully Pulpit daily!..especially STUDENT ATHLETES...we forget ...all the time since we are as old as [email protected] college is all about idealism...that has never changed...these players are locked arm and arm with the rest of their student body and possibly their old neighborhoods in many cases...the fact they are into this is a good thing....our time is over...these are the people who will take the ball from here and shape our America going forward...
 

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Anytime you can throw in Marxism, Communism, Socialism and tie it to someone or a group, then that is all that is needed. Marxism, as far as I understand, is revolting against Capitalism and making a classless society. This way the people have more control and reap the benefits of their labor. So any thought of revolting against Capitalism sparks a view of an attack against the US.

A lot of this rose it's head again in the 60's, during the Vietnam War and the Civil Rights movement. The FBI classified many groups as terrorists or Communist. Hoover had everyone of these groups infiltrated. Nixon was a big proponent of having this done and became the law and order. So any low hanging fruit, like a co-founder of BLM who studied Marxism is automatically a terrorist who is ready to overthrow the country.

AWESOME point...funny how we are reliving history all over again....
 

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I here you brother...but if you have have an advantage of using a pulpit to get your message out I am all for it.the POTUS uses the Bully Pulpit daily!..especially STUDENT ATHLETES...we forget ...all the time since we are as old as [email protected] college is all about idealism...that has never changed...these players are locked arm and arm with the rest of their student body and possibly their old neighborhoods in many cases...the fact they are into this is a good thing....our time is over...these are the people who will take the ball from here and shape our America going forward...
At the end of the day when you are done with your fill of entertainment from that athlete (college, pro, high school), when the gear comes off, that Black athlete now becomes another Black person who faces the same items as other Blacks. To silence any voice is wrong. I don't agree with everything but then it is incumbent of me to research the facts and attempt to understand. If I don't, I become part of the herd mentality.

The young kids in this country, and almost across the world, challenge things they don't believe in. They challenge having to work 60-80 hours work weeks and our generation calls them lazy while wishing we could take time off. When my kids were young, I told them if they had a point, they could make it and I would allow them to defend it as long as it was a meaningful conversation/discussion/debate. At first, I regretted it. Today, I regret it for a whole different reason. I started loosing some of these discussions and couldn't use because 'I said so' or 'Because'. They are all independent thinkers and can hold a conversation. I still want to choke out my youngest (24 year old) and his brother (31 year old), but I'm proud that they will challenge things they don't understand or believe.
 

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AWESOME point...funny how we are reliving history all over again....
Funny how fear is used to quell something. 'Rise of a Nation', MLK = the new Black Messiah who will cause Blacks to rise and overthrow the country; Black Panthers & BLM= a terrorist groups who will overthrow the Government; Farrakhan & Malcolm X = radicals who promote violence. Native American Indians = can't even come close to knowing how they feel. The list goes on. I would expect that if anyone is truly a Christian, they would take their "teachings" more serious. I don't claim to be a Christian. Being raised Catholic in the midst of the Priest scandals has me questioning a lot about Religion. Right now, I think I can hold my own conversations with God.
 

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At the end of the day when you are done with your fill of entertainment from that athlete (college, pro, high school), when the gear comes off, that Black athlete now becomes another Black person who faces the same items as other Blacks. To silence any voice is wrong. I don't agree with everything but then it is incumbent of me to research the facts and attempt to understand. If I don't, I become part of the herd mentality.

The young kids in this country, and almost across the world, challenge things they don't believe in. They challenge having to work 60-80 hours work weeks and our generation calls them lazy while wishing we could take time off. When my kids were young, I told them if they had a point, they could make it and I would allow them to defend it as long as it was a meaningful conversation/discussion/debate. At first, I regretted it. Today, I regret it for a whole different reason. I started loosing some of these discussions and couldn't use because 'I said so' or 'Because'. They are all independent thinkers and can hold a conversation. I still want to choke out my youngest (24 year old) and his brother (31 year old), but I'm proud that they will challenge things they don't understand or believe.
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Funny how fear is used to quell something. 'Rise of a Nation', MLK = the new Black Messiah who will cause Blacks to rise and overthrow the country; Black Panthers & BLM= a terrorist groups who will overthrow the Government; Farrakhan & Malcolm X = radicals who promote violence. Native American Indians = can't even come close to knowing how they feel. The list goes on. I would expect that if anyone is truly a Christian, they would take their "teachings" more serious. I don't claim to be a Christian. Being raised Catholic in the midst of the Priest scandals has me questioning a lot about Religion. Right now, I think I can hold my own conversations with God.

I think about things like this all the time...that we as a society are in the year 2020....and haven't ever moved the needle really on Social Injustice...or taking the time to understand things from others perspective...only from the point of view of how it effects that person!.... The generation now has things we never had access to going up... ...social mediums of all kinds from around the world...all we had were text books and what we knew within 50 miles or so from your home..we are out dated and uneducated...
 

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I’m Done with WVU, the BLM sticker is the straw that broke the camels back.

Really hoped that we got a decent explanation when came to VK but... never happened and now embracing a domestic terrorist group similar to the KKK?

In the words of Rosa Parks “nah”.

I’ll be searching for a new school/team this year if the PC stuff doesn’t get rampant all over, if it does then just like pro sports I’ll be done with CFB as well.

I’ll check in on you goons from time to time and hope n pray to my Christian God that all is well with the lot of ya.


All the best, your pal GR
Goddamn. You are one pathetic loser.
 

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Goddamn. You are one pathetic loser.
Just as you can express yourself and belief, as you did; I appreciate the fact that GR, and others, have expressed theirs. Until we step out of our “norm”, we will not be able see the viewpoints of others, let alone attempt to educate ourselves. GR is at that age, as am I, where you are not going to change his mind too much. Holding truthful conversations will only allow for the changing of bias and open minds. Silly to think you don’t like someone due to the color of their skin.

We all have some sort of bias. I know I expect the worse whenever I get switched over to an overseas call center. I’ve been working on this and have made great strides. To say they are taking American jobs is a fallacy, but people blame the workers for something that a company here in the States has contracted out for cheap labor. All part of Capitalism but when people here in the States complain, it resembles part of the Marxist view.
 

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Goddamn. You are one pathetic loser.

I guess if someone says something you don't agree with, you call names............guess that is how to become a Winner? When a person is to uneducated to look at someone else's view, which they have every right to think the way they want, and give them a counter point, just call names. God I hope I never become one of those winners......
 

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At the end of the day when you are done with your fill of entertainment from that athlete (college, pro, high school), when the gear comes off, that Black athlete now becomes another Black person who faces the same items as other Blacks. To silence any voice is wrong. I don't agree with everything but then it is incumbent of me to research the facts and attempt to understand. If I don't, I become part of the herd mentality.

Absolutely! I have a great number of friends who are former college and NFL players. One, who I will not name by name, is perhaps the best man I have ever known. He is from Florida, and returns there often. I have heard him talk about how bad things are in the south Florida area. Sports is a way to escape the crime. I have also talked to him about racial relations with the police. It takes two to make things go right. This man NEVER loses his cool. Yet he has experienced injustice from a bad cop.

I heard a comedian compare cops to airline pilots. He said, "Our pilots are pretty good. They only crash occasionally." Point taken. Pilots should never crash. Just like cops should never melt down. We have to do better there.
 

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Absolutely! I have a great number of friends who are former college and NFL players. One, who I will not name by name, is perhaps the best man I have ever known. He is from Florida, and returns there often. I have heard him talk about how bad things are in the south Florida area. Sports is a way to escape the crime. I have also talked to him about racial relations with the police. It takes two to make things go right. This man NEVER loses his cool. Yet he has experienced injustice from a bad cop.

I heard a comedian compare cops to airline pilots. He said, "Our pilots are pretty good. They only crash occasionally." Point taken. Pilots should never crash. Just like cops should never melt down. We have to do better there.
Go to YouTube and look up Chris Rock-Who wants to change places? It’s about a 5 minute clip from his HBO special.
 
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