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Utah Jazz - Houston Rockets Series Thread.

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So the goal for this next game is the same. Cut it in half. Cutting 16 by 1/2 is eight and so that is the optimist. (32 in game one, 16 and game two, eight in game three, and four in game four.) But since we lost by 20 instead of 32, cutting 20 in half is 10 and so that’s the pessimist.

Seriously, my real goal is for Mitchell to have a great game and for us to win. We’re not going to win the series in my opinion. I don’t think we’re going to even have six games but I couldn’t say absolutely no.

But I don’t want a good game by Mitchell in game three (loss) and a great game four (loss). A great game and losing would be OK in game three.

In other words, I don’t want him to show up when it doesn’t matter. I don’t think we have a chance of winning, but showing up in game four whether we win or not, I think it wouldn’t matter. We need a great game three.

I know, I know, I should want to great game and a win for every game. 16 and 2. But if I’m going to want something unrealistic, it is no fun for me.


What if he had a great game in game 3 (loss) and a good game in game 4 (loss)? Would you be disappointed at the lesser performance in game 4?

Also, every game matters. Some team in the NBA is going to come back from down 0 - 3. So game 4 matters too.

Plus, there have been a lot of teams that after being down 0 - 3, have won games 4 and 5.

There have been a few times where teams won games 4, 5, and 6.

I don't like your notion that the game doesn't matter if down 0 - 3. Especially when I know of several series that get extended to 6 games. That much happens once every few years at least.

What I also mean is if what if Mitchell has the good (but not great) game in game 4, and it's a close game? Rather than a blowout loss. Does that count for something?

Because it's not a given that just because the game is at home, the game will be close. The Rockets blow teams out on the road too. So a better showing would count a little bit.
 

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Also, can you see if Stockton ever went 0 - 7 or worse in a playoffs game? (Kyle Lowry game 1).
 

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If you were to tell me that Harden would be 0-14 (with <10 FTs) and Mitchell would have 25 points before the fourth quarter, I would have presumed the Jazz would be up by at least 6 points. But we’re down 82-80. Sheesh.
 

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Donovan Mitchell had his second worst playoff game according to Game Score. This was his 13th playoff game.

Dejavu: http://bkref.com/tiny/tlPHN

Good game: Mitchell had his fourth best game according to game score yesterday. Still lost. I don’t like that he was 4 for 12 for two point attempts. And if he is going to take 15 threes, I want him to make at least six. And no this is not because we lost by three.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Q2QGk
 

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If you were to tell me that Harden would be 0-14 (with <10 FTs) and Mitchell would have 25 points before the fourth quarter, I would have presumed the Jazz would be up by at least 6 points. But we’re down 82-80. Sheesh.

Sometimes presumptions are too simplistic, and not looking at other factors.

We kind of see it in those games where everyone shoots below 50%, and still win. Or everyone shoots above 50%, and still lose.
 

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Mitchell opens game 4 with a passing turnover.

He has another turnover 3 minutes later.

Crowder starts the game 5/5.

15-20 Jazz midway through the first.

But it feels like the Jazz are the ones down.
 

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24 - 32, end of the first. Even though the Jazz are up, I think of it as a tie game right now.
 

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47 - 53 halftime.

I agree that the Jazz are ahead.
 

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Houston takes a lead at 60-58.

Jazz score back to tie it up.
 

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79 - 76 Houston, end of the 3rd.

Maybe the Jazz can win this?
 

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I like how Mitchell gave credit to Crowder, during his post game interview with Allie LaForce.

@MHSL82 says that big game 4's when down 0 - 3 don't really count, so I guess no one on the Jazz had a big game, and that the Jazz really lost the series. ;)

Just kidding, I know he's happy to see a game 5.
 

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I know, I know, I should want to great game and a win for every game. 16 and 2. But if I’m going to want something unrealistic, it is no fun for me.

Winning a game 4 when down 0 - 3, and trying to come back from down 0 - 3 is realistic.

Some team is going to do it.

The Jazz are capable of playing great ball. Maybe they can do it.
 

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I like how Mitchell gave credit to Crowder, during his post game interview with Allie LaForce.

@MHSL82 says that big game 4's when down 0 - 3 don't really count, so I guess no one on the Jazz had a big game, and that the Jazz really lost the series. ;)

Just kidding, I know he's happy to see a game 5.

He played well in Game 3, so playing well in Game 4 is important even though we lost Game 3. I just meant that playing poorly in Game 3 would make Game 4 more ehh to me. Assuming we lose the series. If we come back to win 4-3, color me wrong.
 

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Winning a game 4 when down 0 - 3, and trying to come back from down 0 - 3 is realistic.

Some team is going to do it.

The Jazz are capable of playing great ball. Maybe they can do it.

Not 16-2. Wanting to win every single game from now until the Finals is unrealistic, so that’s not what I’m wanting. 0-3 to 4-3 is unlikely but not impossible or more unrealistic than winning out.
 

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Good game: Mitchell had his fourth best game according to game score yesterday. Still lost. I don’t like that he was 4 for 12 for two point attempts. And if he is going to take 15 threes, I want him to make at least six. And no this is not because we lost by three.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Q2QGk

His 6th best Playoffs GameScore, 4th highest playoff scoring game of 15 total games in Game 4 yesterday.

So in this series, two games beat his Top 5 and two games were worse than his second worst.

Next game is Game 16. Let’s hope he beats Game #8 to turn in 3 top half playoff games.
 

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His 6th best Playoffs GameScore, 4th highest playoff scoring game of 15 total games in Game 4 yesterday.

So in this series, two games beat his Top 5 and two games were worse than his second worst.

Next game is Game 16. Let’s hope he beats Game #8 to turn in 3 top half playoff games.

Ok, so he had his worst playoff game of his career. So three of his four first games were from this year: http://bkref.com/tiny/raIGL

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“According to ESPN Stats & Information research, the Jazz generated the most uncontested field goal attempts per game (39.6) so far in the playoffs but shot only 48 percent on them, including 26 percent from 3-point range.”
 

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“No player had attempted at least 20 shots from the floor and hit less than 20 percent in a playoff game since 2003, until it happened twice in this series. The Rockets managed to win Game 3 despite Harden's 3-of-20 performance. The Jazz couldn't overcome Mitchell's off night, which included him missing all nine of his 3-point attempts.

"It's funny, Dame [Lillard] said this yesterday: 'You don't succeed without failure, and you don't succeed without going through times like this,'" Mitchell said. "To have that so vividly in my head in a moment like this -- I can tell you that I'm upset, but I'm going to be better, simply put."”
 

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“First-round matchup, it's tough playing against us," said Harden, whom Mitchell considers a mentor. "He's confident. You see what he did last game. He's capable of taking over a game, and it's only his second year. Once he gets them years under his belt and more comfortable -- obviously, we know what his job is -- but once he gets more comfortable in his role and he knows that he's one of those guys, the sky's the limit for him."”
 
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