Updated SOS Rankings

[Shanemansj13]

Out of the top 25 teams in the Sagarin who has the worst SOS...it's UCF at 94 and they have 2 losses lolzzz

#suckstosuck
#shittycompetition
#stillcantwin

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

True. The Invitational Committee only uses 1 stat. TV ratings.

Same as bowl committees for decades.

#UCFacts

You realize the G5 has representation on the committee, right?

 

[Rolltide94]

2 of the vaunted P5 teams lost three games versus G5 opponents. P5 isn't automatically better.

Yes, that is why I posted the specific teams and their opponents played. Which of these schedules are you telling me is equal to Alabama's....

 

[UCFhonors]

You realize the G5 has representation on the committee, right?

Oh yeah?

Who is that? And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation

CFP Selection Committee

And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation


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[Rolltide94]

Consider that a computer doesn't know what a P5 conference is or a G5 conference. Yet the overwhelming majority of P5 teams have better SOS numbers in the computer rankings. How do you explain that?

The SEC is 154-10 all time vs the Sun Belt...and only two of the 10 losses have been by more than one possession. If I have 5 SEC teams on my schedule and you have 5 Sun Belt teams...and you think their SOS is equal and that the computers are retarded....here's your sign.

 

[Rolltide94]

Oh yeah?

Who is that? And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation

CFP Selection Committee

And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation


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#UCFacts

Maybe you should go back to FCS then, I heard they have a legit championship and everything.

 

[Rolltide94]

Not the least bit worried since the other posters think identity and perception determines value in objective systems. They also think objective SOS is about schedule difficulty. But again, propping up a P5 team with two losses to G5 teams simply because it is P5 is a weak position.

Ultimately, I'm not making any claims about which teams are better and which schedules are more difficult. The point is that a G5 schedule can be more valuable than a P5 schedule based on the success of the opponents played and the criteria used.

Which would be why if you use a simple math SOS you are doing it wrong. IF playing a 5-2 Temple team with losses to 3-4 Buffalo and #16 SMU by a combined 40 points makes your SOS higher than playing a 4-3 Texas A&M team with losses to #1, #4 and #9 by a combined 31 points, perhaps your system is flawed.

 

[Rolltide94]

FYI

Bowling Green also played Notre Dame.

Don’t know if Sagarin left that out, or if you just forgot to type it.

typo

 

[UCFhonors]

Maybe you should go back to FCS then, I heard they have a legit championship and everything.

I know Bamers are scared of legit playoffs. You're the snowflakes who need preferred treatment.

And you should worry that UCF is the catalyst for change and the inevitable NCAA sanctioned FBS Playoff with all conference champs included.

#UCFacts

 

[ericd7633]

Oh yeah?

Who is that? And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation

CFP Selection Committee

And I really only care about P6 and non-ESP5N Cartel representation


More details
College Football Payoff

#UCFacts

Did you miss the Athletic director at Arkansas State?

 

[UCFhonors]

Did you miss the Athletic director at Arkansas State?

A token often times hinders progress than letting blatant corruption run it's course.

Learn more about this very topic here:
Revisionist History Podcast

And no, Terry Mohajir in not a P6 representative.

#UCFacts

 

[ericd7633]

A token often times hinders progress than letting blatant corruption run it's course.

Learn more about this very topic here:
Revisionist History Podcast

And no, Terry Mohajir in not a P6 representative.

#UCFacts

Well yeah there is no such thing as a P6. He does represent the G5, which constitutes The American, The Mtn West, Sun Belt, Conference USA and Mid American Conference.

You're welcome for the education.

 

[Rolltide94]

I know Bamers are scared of legit playoffs. You're the snowflakes who need preferred treatment.

And you should worry that UCF is the catalyst for change and the inevitable NCAA sanctioned FBS Playoff with all conference champs included.

#UCFacts

If you are going to be a catalyst for change, shouldn't you have more than one win against a top 10 team in the history of your program...I'm sure this wasn't part of your Liberal Arts education, but catalyst are not supposed to be consumed in the reaction. What is the over/under on UCF losses this year? 3? 4?

 

[uncfan103]

Well yeah there is no such thing as a P6. He does represent the G5, which constitutes The American, The Mtn West, Sun Belt, Conference USA and Mid American Conference.

You're welcome for the education.

There’s no such thing as P6 but the American Conference is absolutely a tier above the MAC, C-USA and the SunBelt.

 

[UCFhonors]

Well yeah there is no such thing as a P6. He does represent the G5, which constitutes The American, The Mtn West, Sun Belt, Conference USA and Mid American Conference.

You're welcome for the education.

There’s no such thing as P6 but the American Conference is absolutely a tier above the MAC, C-USA and the SunBelt.

Riddle me this.

#UCFacts

 

[UCFhonors]

If you are going to be a catalyst for change, shouldn't you have more than one win against a top 10 team in the history of your program...I'm sure this wasn't part of your Liberal Arts education, but catalyst are not supposed to be consumed in the reaction. What is the over/under on UCF losses this year? 3? 4?

I definitely take the under.

When Bama loses 3 or 4 they still feel entitled to a MNC invite.

#UCFacts

 

[ericd7633]

There’s no such thing as P6 but the American Conference is absolutely a tier above the MAC, C-USA and the SunBelt.

I would agree that The American is a better G5 conference than those mentioned.

 

[CJH9972]

Which would be why if you use a simple math SOS you are doing it wrong. IF playing a 5-2 Temple team with losses to 3-4 Buffalo and #16 SMU by a combined 40 points makes your SOS higher than playing a 4-3 Texas A&M team with losses to #1, #4 and #9 by a combined 31 points, perhaps your system is flawed.

If Temple is a higher value win or better for SOS, it is because they have fared better according to that particular system's rules. It is not a claim that Temple is a more difficult opponent. With any system, better opponents have a higher probability of greater SOS value but there are no guarantees.

The purpose of any possible rules is to accomplish what the rules value. No rules can guarantee that their values will always favor greater subjective values regarding better teams and more difficult schedules.

 

[ericd7633]

Riddle me this.

#UCFacts

Crazy for a "power" conference to be left out of the NY6 in 2014 and 2016.

 

[UCFhonors]

Crazy for a "power" conference to be left out of the NY6 in 2014 and 2016.

Yep. I agree.

It's crazy how threatened the ESP5N Cartel is of the AAC.

#UCFacts