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Game Thread: tOfficial 1st Place Detroit Football Lions @ MN Vikings Game Thread and Predictions.

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Wasn’t able to watch. Seibert missed two kicks? And was Hutch injured? Didn’t show up on the stat line.
Hutch played the whole game, well rotated out for plays but I don't think due to injury. But he was eaten alive out there today. Completely stonewalled a number of times, probably a majority of his pass rushes he got absolutely zero push. The times he didn't get stonewalled he was ridden wide around the pocket. Like way, WAY wide. He might have gotten credit for one pressure on a stunt. Pretty much a complete non factor in the pass game. They did run directly at where he was lined up a number of times too. But on those plays the Tackle he was lined up over (they were moving him around a bit) those plays the Tackle ate his lunch. Pancaked a couple times and washed way out of the play on the rest. He was a bigger factor in the pass game than the run game... somehow.

He looked like a rookie out there. But the position he plays, the league leader usually finishes the season averaging around 1 sack a game, so getting shut down doesn't always mean anything.
 

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Hutch played the whole game, well rotated out for plays but I don't think due to injury. But he was eaten alive out there today. Completely stonewalled a number of times, probably a majority of his pass rushes he got absolutely zero push. The times he didn't get stonewalled he was ridden wide around the pocket. Like way, WAY wide. He might have gotten credit for one pressure on a stunt. Pretty much a complete non factor in the pass game. They did run directly at where he was lined up a number of times too. But on those plays the Tackle he was lined up over (they were moving him around a bit) those plays the Tackle ate his lunch. Pancaked a couple times and washed way out of the play on the rest. He was a bigger factor in the pass game than the run game... somehow.

He looked like a rookie out there. But the position he plays, the league leader usually finishes the season averaging around 1 sack a game, so getting shut down doesn't always mean anything.
I appreciate it! Really want to see how he does at this level. My concern is high floor, low ceiling, but no doubt the kid has a motor and will put the effort in.
 

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Thanks. I never said he would make the field goal, or which team would win. Just that he would win the game with a field goal.
I am glad we got that cleared up.
 

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As you should, DC.


“I fricken regret my decision there in the end,” Campbell said after the game. “I should have gone for it on fourth down, and I told the team I should’ve gone for it.”

He later added: “I regret that decision 100 percent. I really do, Dave (Birkett). I hate it, and I do feel like I cost our team. I really do, man.”

What is sad is he does not know why he should have gone for it. Just like he didnt know why he should not have gone for it at the end of the first half.
 

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Come on now, you have no damn idea if that pass by Goff to Reynolds would have been perfect or not. Yes, as I stated, Reynolds stopped mid-route, but don't attempt to predict that that pass would've been perfect. How about all the other passes he missed on - inclusive of a half a dozen intermediate throws out on the boundary?

He missed some passes but in no way is he to blame for the loss today. I put this squarely on the shoulders of Campbell. Guy seems like a great motivator and his guys love him but he's a terrible tactician. He makes Jim Caldwell look like General Patton
 

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He missed some passes but in no way is he to blame for the loss today. I put this squarely on the shoulders of Campbell. Guy seems like a great motivator and his guys love him but he's a terrible tactician. He makes Jim Caldwell look like General Patton
The biggest miss was Reynolds just stopping his route. That was an east TD, but he started walking. Throw was on point for that one
 

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He missed some passes but in no way is he to blame for the loss today. I put this squarely on the shoulders of Campbell. Guy seems like a great motivator and his guys love him but he's a terrible tactician. He makes Jim Caldwell look like General Patton

You and others are more correct than I am with my overtly bias towards Goff being liable for this loss.
 

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Game #3 @ Vikings

3rd & 12 at MIN 36
(11:51 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to A.St. Brown to MIN 30 for 6 yards (J.Metellus, E.Kendricks).

4th & 5 at MIN 32
(7:12 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short middle to A.St. Brown pushed ob at MIN 2 for 30 yards (P.Peterson).

3rd & 5 at MIN 32
(7:16 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short right to A.St. Brown.

3rd & 5 at MIN 35
(0:34 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to K.Raymond to MIN 31 for 4 yards (J.Hicks).

4th & 1 at MIN 31
(15:00 - 2nd) M.Nelson reported in as eligible. J.Goff pass short right to J.Reynolds to MIN 14 for 17 yards (J.Metellus)

3rd & 1 at DET 34
(6:54 - 2nd) J.Goff pass short right to D.Chark to DET 40 for 6 yards (C.Dantzler).

3rd & 8 at DET 42
(5:48 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to T.Hockenson to DET 49 for 7 yards (J.Metellus).

4th & 1 at DET 49
(5:04 - 2nd) M.Nelson reported in as eligible. J.Goff pass incomplete short left to T.Hockenson (E.Kendricks).

3rd & 4 at DET 42
(0:45 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short left to A.St. Brown (J.Hicks).

3rd & 7 at DET 49
(11:22 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to C.Reynolds pushed ob at MIN 46 for 5 yards (J.Hicks).

4th & 2 at MIN 46
(10:41 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to J.Reynolds pushed ob at MIN 30 for 16 yards (J.Metellus).

3rd & 2 at MIN 22
(8:46 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short right to D.Chark (P.Peterson).

4th & 2 at MIN 22
(8:36 - 3rd) A.Seibert 40 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

3rd & 3 at MIN 47
(3:38 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to A.St. Brown to MIN 39 for 8 yards (J.Metellus).

3rd & 1 at DET 27
(10:53 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete deep right to J.Reynolds (P.Peterson).

3rd & 8 at MIN 48
(5:04 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short middle to A.St. Brown to MIN 39 for 9 yards (C.Sullivan).

3rd & 10 at 50
(0:17 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass deep left intended for D.Chark INTERCEPTED by J.Metellus [D.Wonnum] at MIN 5. J.Metellus to MIN 5 for no gain
(D.Chark).

Goff 3/12 on 3rd down during Game #3. The final 3rd down conversion attempt was last play of the game
 

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Game #2 versus Commanders

3rd & 12 at DET 23
(14:21 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff sacked at DET 11 for -12 yards (J.Davis).

4th & 24 at DET 11
(13:45 - 1st) J.Fox punts 60 yards to WAS 29, Center-S.Daly. D.Milne to WAS 32 for 3 yards (B.Price).

3rd & 3 at DET 27
(10:18 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short middle to A.St. Brown pushed ob at WAS 24 for 49 yards (D.Forrest).

3rd & 9 at WSH 23
(8:51 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to A.St. Brown to WAS 17 for 6 yards (B.St-Juste).

4th & 3 at WSH 17
(8:06 - 1st) A.Seibert 35 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

3rd & 3 at WSH 3
(4:11 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short left to A.St. Brown.

4th & 3 at WSH 3
(4:07 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short left to D.Chark (K.Fuller) [C.Toohill].

3rd & 5 at WSH 13
(1:40 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to A.St. Brown for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN [M.Sweat].A.Seibert extra point is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

3rd & 4 at DET 24
(2:56 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short right to D.Chark [B.St-Juste].

4th & 4 at DET 24
(2:51 - 2nd) J.Fox punts 56 yards to WAS 20, Center-S.Daly, fair catch by D.Milne.

3rd & 10 at DET 20
(0:22 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete deep right to D.Chark.

4th & 10 at DET 20
(0:15 - 2nd) J.Fox punts 45 yards to WAS 35, Center-S.Daly. D.Milne to WAS 46 for 11 yards (Q.Cephus).

End of Half

3rd & 6 at DET 29
(11:53 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete deep right to A.St. Brown [D.Payne].

4th & 6 at DET 29
(11:49 - 3rd) J.Fox punts 63 yards to WAS 8, Center-S.Daly. D.Milne to WAS 27 for 19 yards (Q.Cephus, J.Woods).

3rd & 8 at DET 34
(8:16 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short middle to T.Hockenson to DET 41 for 7 yards (D.Forrest, B.St-Juste) [M.Sweat].

4th & 1 at DET 41
(7:27 - 3rd) J.Fox punts 53 yards to WAS 6, Center-S.Daly, fair catch by D.Milne.

3rd & 15 at WSH 22
(1:28 - 3rd) D'Andre Swift Pass From Jared Goff for 22 Yds A.Seibert extra point is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

3rd & 2 at WSH 36
(8:35 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to B.Wright to WAS 11 for 25 yards (B.McCain; C.Holcomb).

Goff 5/12 3rd down conversions during Game #2
 

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Game #1 versus Eagles

3rd & 9 at PHI 14
(11:40 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to T.Hockenson pushed ob at PHI 5 for 9 yards (C.Gardner-Johnson).

3rd & 6 at DET 45
(6:02 - 1st) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short left to A.St. Brown [J.Sweat].

4th & 6 at DET 45
(5:58 - 1st) J.Fox punts 37 yards to PHI 18, Center-S.Daly, fair catch by B.Covey.

3rd & 7 at DET 28
(11:53 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short right to D.Chark.

4th & 7 at DET 28
(11:50 - 2nd) J.Fox punts 54 yards to PHI 18, Center-S.Daly. B.Covey to PHI 29 for 11 yards (W.Harris).

3rd & 10 at DET 22
(9:57 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short right to A.St. Brown (C.Gardner-Johnson).

4th & 10 at DET 22
(9:52 - 2nd) J.Fox punts 46 yards to PHI 32, Center-S.Daly. B.Covey to PHI 34 for 2 yards (M.Hughes).

3rd & 5 at DET 30
(5:20 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Goff pass deep left to J.Reynolds to PHI 42 for 28 yards (M.Epps).

3rd & 3 at DET 48
(7:49 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to D.Chark pushed ob at PHI 39 for 13 yards (C.Gardner-Johnson).

3rd & 7 at PHI 20
(5:41 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff scrambles left end to PHI 10 for 10 yards (T.Edwards).

3rd & Goal at PHI 4
(4:09 - 3rd) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short left to A.St. Brown for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.A.Seibert extra point is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

3rd & 3 at DET 45
(11:30 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff FUMBLES (Aborted) at DET 39, and recovers at DET 39. J.Goff sacked at DET 35 for -10 yards (sack split by F.Cox and B.Graham).

4th & 13 at DET 35
(10:49 - 4th) J.Fox punts 48 yards to PHI 17, Center-S.Daly, fair catch by B.Covey.

3rd & 4 at DET 34
(7:08 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Goff pass short middle to D.Chark to DET 47 for 13 yards (D.Slay).

3rd & 5 at PHI 48
(5:32 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass short right to D.Swift to PHI 41 for 7 yards (T.Edwards).

3rd & 10 at PHI 41
(4:48 - 4th) (Shotgun) J.Goff pass incomplete short middle to T.Hockenson. PENALTY on PHI-C.Gardner-Johnson, Defensive Pass Interference, 11 yards, enforced at PHI 41 - No Play.

3rd & 2 at PHI 22
(3:51 - 4th) DJ Chark Pass From Jared Goff for 22 Yds A.Seibert extra point is GOOD, Center-S.Daly, Holder-J.Fox.

Goff 7/12 on 3rd down conversions during Game #1
 

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Swift is out for some time due to a sprained shoulder not to mention still dealing with the ankle sprain.

Walker is confirmed to have torn his Achilles.
 

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Hutch played the whole game, well rotated out for plays but I don't think due to injury. But he was eaten alive out there today. Completely stonewalled a number of times, probably a majority of his pass rushes he got absolutely zero push. The times he didn't get stonewalled he was ridden wide around the pocket. Like way, WAY wide. He might have gotten credit for one pressure on a stunt. Pretty much a complete non factor in the pass game. They did run directly at where he was lined up a number of times too. But on those plays the Tackle he was lined up over (they were moving him around a bit) those plays the Tackle ate his lunch. Pancaked a couple times and washed way out of the play on the rest. He was a bigger factor in the pass game than the run game... somehow.

He looked like a rookie out there. But the position he plays, the league leader usually finishes the season averaging around 1 sack a game, so getting shut down doesn't always mean anything.
I think what ever injury he got against the Commanders is still impacting him a lot. His pressure vanished in the second half of that game and has not come back. Hopefully with another week to heal we see the real Hutch back.
 

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You and others are more correct than I am with my overtly bias towards Goff being liable for this loss.

Don't get me wrong, if the Lions finish with a top 3 draft pick they have to draft Stroud. Although, Will Anderson would be a nice piece opposite of Hutch. Goff is a decent qb but I don't think he's gonna win you games on his own.
 

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I don't want to jinx it, but I would let Okudah impregnate my butthole
 
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