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When admitting back in the post season of 2016 that the White Sox were not going anywhere with their existing roster, Hahn & Co began the teardown and rebuild by engaging in a number of trades in that offseason and the following 2017 in-season as well. None were bigger than the three which saw the departures of Chris Sale, Adam Eaton, and Jose Quintana, in exchange for a boatload of promising prospects.
Of course the normal thinking when making such trades is you give up the present for hopefully a better future. I don't think any rational Sox fan expected immediate payback when we gave up our three most trade-valued players in exchange for a whole lotta potential, altho as the old saying goes, potential and 25 cents = two bits. Unless or until they produce, a prospect is nothing more than just that.
So how have we done so far, even taking into account that the majority of prospects we received remain in the minor leagues? Let's do a quick recap:
Red Sox get: P Chris Sale
White Sox get IF Yoan Moncada, P Michael Kopech, OF Luis Basabe, P Victor Diaz
Nationals get: OF Adam Eaton
White Sox get: P Lucas Giolito, P Reynaldo Lopez, P Dane Dunning
Cubs get: P Jose Quintana
White Sox get: OF Eloy Jimenez, P Dylan Cease, IF Matt Rose IF Bryant Flete
There is little doubt that as it presently stands, the Red Sox scored big time with this trade. As already stated, it's way too early to evaluate what we received, but so far Chris Sale is on pace to win the Cy Young while leading his team to what could very well be a trip to the WS. Sale has had a history of somewhat flaming out the last 5-6 weeks of each season and it was kinda looking like another repeat of such when he recently went on IR for a bit. But he dominated in his return back to the rotation with one hit ball and 12 SO in just 5 innings pitched. On our end, Moncada has shown flashes of brilliance, but so far he doesn't look even remotely close being the player once crowned the best prospect in baseball. Kopech has struggled big time with his full year in AAA, altho he has been lights out in his last half dozen or so starts. Here's to hoping we'll be getting the pitcher we expected in this trade. Basabe has some value and could possibly make the club as a pine brother. Not sure if we'll ever see Diaz wearing a ML uniform.
It's kind of hard to judge at this point who made out in the trade with the Nats, altho we'd be hard pressed not to say the Sox have gotten the better end of it. When healthy, Eaton is a force both with the bat and his glove. But he has missed an awful lot of time with various injuries during his short stay with his new team. On our end, Giolito and Lopez so far have provide mixed reviews in their respective performances to date. But any time you have 2/5 of a rotation resulting from a trade, it's hard to argue with that. As for Dunning, he was tearing it up in the minors until he was placed on the DL. Not sure if he's back yet, but at least his arrow is definitely pointed upward, and many are predicting we'll see him on the Sox roster no later than 2019.
The Cubs were obviously hoping for at the least a solid #2 rotation guy in Q when they surrendered their top two prospects. But he has been surprisingly inconsistent during his stint with them, more often than not pitching like a #4-5 starter at best. Again, we can't effectively evaluate who got the better of the deal, but Eloy is absolutely killing it in AAA, while Cease is doing likewise for his ballclub. There's a good chance that both will be called up in September, especially Eloy. On potential alone, this may prove to be the most lopsided trade in our favor, even if the two IFs we received prove never to be anything more than ballast.
So what sayeth my fellow diehards in all this (besides criticizing me for issuing a painfully long post)? How do you see the trades so far, and what's your take?
Of course the normal thinking when making such trades is you give up the present for hopefully a better future. I don't think any rational Sox fan expected immediate payback when we gave up our three most trade-valued players in exchange for a whole lotta potential, altho as the old saying goes, potential and 25 cents = two bits. Unless or until they produce, a prospect is nothing more than just that.
So how have we done so far, even taking into account that the majority of prospects we received remain in the minor leagues? Let's do a quick recap:
Red Sox get: P Chris Sale
White Sox get IF Yoan Moncada, P Michael Kopech, OF Luis Basabe, P Victor Diaz
Nationals get: OF Adam Eaton
White Sox get: P Lucas Giolito, P Reynaldo Lopez, P Dane Dunning
Cubs get: P Jose Quintana
White Sox get: OF Eloy Jimenez, P Dylan Cease, IF Matt Rose IF Bryant Flete
There is little doubt that as it presently stands, the Red Sox scored big time with this trade. As already stated, it's way too early to evaluate what we received, but so far Chris Sale is on pace to win the Cy Young while leading his team to what could very well be a trip to the WS. Sale has had a history of somewhat flaming out the last 5-6 weeks of each season and it was kinda looking like another repeat of such when he recently went on IR for a bit. But he dominated in his return back to the rotation with one hit ball and 12 SO in just 5 innings pitched. On our end, Moncada has shown flashes of brilliance, but so far he doesn't look even remotely close being the player once crowned the best prospect in baseball. Kopech has struggled big time with his full year in AAA, altho he has been lights out in his last half dozen or so starts. Here's to hoping we'll be getting the pitcher we expected in this trade. Basabe has some value and could possibly make the club as a pine brother. Not sure if we'll ever see Diaz wearing a ML uniform.
It's kind of hard to judge at this point who made out in the trade with the Nats, altho we'd be hard pressed not to say the Sox have gotten the better end of it. When healthy, Eaton is a force both with the bat and his glove. But he has missed an awful lot of time with various injuries during his short stay with his new team. On our end, Giolito and Lopez so far have provide mixed reviews in their respective performances to date. But any time you have 2/5 of a rotation resulting from a trade, it's hard to argue with that. As for Dunning, he was tearing it up in the minors until he was placed on the DL. Not sure if he's back yet, but at least his arrow is definitely pointed upward, and many are predicting we'll see him on the Sox roster no later than 2019.
The Cubs were obviously hoping for at the least a solid #2 rotation guy in Q when they surrendered their top two prospects. But he has been surprisingly inconsistent during his stint with them, more often than not pitching like a #4-5 starter at best. Again, we can't effectively evaluate who got the better of the deal, but Eloy is absolutely killing it in AAA, while Cease is doing likewise for his ballclub. There's a good chance that both will be called up in September, especially Eloy. On potential alone, this may prove to be the most lopsided trade in our favor, even if the two IFs we received prove never to be anything more than ballast.
So what sayeth my fellow diehards in all this (besides criticizing me for issuing a painfully long post)? How do you see the trades so far, and what's your take?