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The MLB payroll discussion got me to ask AI to compare the current Dodgers and the 90s/00s Yankees

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Got this response (from Gemini). The Dodgers spending relative to the league is more than the 90s Yankees but less than the 2000s Yankees:




When comparing the spending power of the late 90s New York Yankees and the modern-day Los Angeles Dodgers, the Yankees were actually the more aggressive spenders relative to their peers.
While the Dodgers' current numbers ($300M+) look massive compared to the Yankees' 1990s figures ($60M–$90M), the Yankees’ payroll represented a much larger multiple of the league average at the time.

The Comparison (Relative to League Average)

Team (Era)Est. Peak PayrollLeague AverageSpend vs. Average
NY Yankees (1996–2000)~$92.5M (2000)~$49.3M (2000)~1.88x
LA Dodgers (2024–2026)~$417M (2026)~$170M* (2025/26)~2.45x
Correction/Clarification: While the Dodgers' 2026 tax payroll has spiked to a projected $417M (roughly 2.4x the league average), it's important to note that the Yankees' "spending era" actually accelerated even faster after their 90s dynasty. By 2005, the Yankees' payroll reached $208M when the league average was only $73M—nearly 2.85x the average.

Why the Yankees' Spending Felt "Bigger"

In the late 90s, the financial "gap" between the top and bottom was arguably more jarring because the luxury tax systems were not yet as punitive as today’s "Steve Cohen Tax" tiers.
  • The 1996 Yankees: Won the World Series with a record-setting $61.5M payroll. At that time, the Milwaukee Brewers were competing with just $11.7M. The Yankees were spending over 5x more than the lowest-spending team.


  • The Modern Dodgers: While their $400M+ tax payroll is a record, the floor has risen. Today’s lowest spenders (like the Athletics or Marlins) typically hover around $60M–$80M. The Dodgers are spending roughly 5x to 6x the floor, similar to the 90s Yankees, but they face steep "Competitive Balance Tax" penalties that didn't exist in the same way during Joe Torre's early years.

The "Deferred" Factor

The modern Dodgers use a tool the 90s Yankees didn't: massive deferrals.
Shohei Ohtani’s contract is technically $70M/year, but because he defers most of it, his "present value" hits the payroll books at a lower rate for luxury tax purposes. In the 90s, what the Yankees paid was generally what hit the books immediately.

Verdict

If you look strictly at the Dynasty Era (1996–2000), the Dodgers are actually spending more relative to the average team today. However, if you include the early 2000s (the "Evil Empire" peak), the Yankees hold the crown for the greatest spending disparity in baseball history.
Would you like me to break down the specific luxury tax penalties the Dodgers are projected to pay for their 2025 and 2026 seasons?
 

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If their spending disparities are comparable, why are so many more people complaining about LA ruining the sport than NY back then?
 

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If their spending disparities are comparable, why are so many more people complaining about LA ruining the sport than NY back then?
That's sort of the point. But I remember a ton of complaining about the Yankees back then (they were the Evil Empire)

Turns out the sport survived then
 

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If their spending disparities are comparable, why are so many more people complaining about LA ruining the sport than NY back then?

I basically gave up baseball because of that era. Realized MLB was so stupid that they would never fix it.

And surprise, surprise, here we are. Still at the point where small market teams are nothing more than minor league feeders for the highest payers and can’t possibly compete year in and year out.
 

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I basically gave up baseball because of that era. Realized MLB was so stupid that they would never fix it.

And surprise, surprise, here we are. Still at the point where small market teams are nothing more than minor league feeders for the highest payers and can’t possibly compete year in and year out.
Yeah the NFL is so much better. Even the Browns and Jets and Raiders and Cardinals are consistently in the hunt… oh wait
 

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I basically gave up baseball because of that era. Realized MLB was so stupid that they would never fix it.

And surprise, surprise, here we are. Still at the point where small market teams are nothing more than minor league feeders for the highest payers and can’t possibly compete year in and year out.

I'd question how your franchise is using their revenue sharing. For example, the Marlins payroll is projected at less than 80M and they received about 70m in revenue sharing in 2025. They lease their stadium. Owner Bruce Sherman is getting his franchise paid for free essentially.
 

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Yeah the NFL is so much better. Even the Browns and Jets and Raiders and Cardinals are consistently in the hunt… oh wait
They could be, though.

NFL parity isnt really about teams. Its just hitting on draft picks and paying those draft picks 1/4 of what they're worth.
 

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I'd question how your franchise is using their revenue sharing. For example, the Marlins payroll is projected at less than 80M and they received about 70m in revenue sharing in 2025. They lease their stadium. Owner Bruce Sherman is getting his franchise paid for free essentially.
Also Miami isn't a "small market" by any stretch. Mismanagement is the only reason the Marlins aren't top 10 in attendance, especially given the Caribbean influence.
 

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Also Miami isn't a "small market" by any stretch. Mismanagement is the only reason the Marlins aren't top 10 in attendance, especially given the Caribbean influence.

I wouldn't go that far. Florida pro sports aren't historically strong draws (Rays are another example).
 

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I'd question how your franchise is using their revenue sharing. For example, the Marlins payroll is projected at less than 80M and they received about 70m in revenue sharing in 2025. They lease their stadium. Owner Bruce Sherman is getting his franchise paid for free essentially.

A season ago the NFL shared about $450M per team and has a cap on salary at $255M.
 

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If their spending disparities are comparable, why are so many more people complaining about LA ruining the sport than NY back then?
Not even sure this is true.....I might even say more complained NY ruined the sport back then.....maybe that's because to me baseball seemed more popular at the time?
 

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They could be, though.

NFL parity isnt really about teams. Its just hitting on draft picks and paying those draft picks 1/4 of what they're worth.
and, hell, the Browns did make the playoffs 2X under current FO regime.

Is true have to be smarter in the NFL as cannot just outspend the entire sport by a few hundred mil. Though nature of sports is what helps out baseball.
 

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People absolutely did complain about the Yankees spending then, especially since they were rattling off rings too. But the funny thing is, during that exact same time, the Mets were also massive spenders...and never won crap. So, at the time, people were pointing at the Mets and saying it wasn't just about the money...you had to be smart about it too.

Though one difference is those Yankees then still had a bunch of "homegrown" guys in the "core four" in Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Rivera.

And, come on...it's not like the Dodgers were rolling through everyone last year. Injuries still derailed some of their season and they needed a miracle homerun in Game 7 (by a homegrown guy) to even have a chance at winning.
 

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People absolutely did complain about the Yankees spending then, especially since they were rattling off rings too. But the funny thing is, during that exact same time, the Mets were also massive spenders...and never won crap. So, at the time, people were pointing at the Mets and saying it wasn't just about the money...you had to be smart about it too.

Though one difference is those Yankees then still had a bunch of "homegrown" guys in the "core four" in Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Rivera.

And, come on...it's not like the Dodgers were rolling through everyone last year. Injuries still derailed some of their season and they needed a miracle homerun in Game 7 (by a homegrown guy) to even have a chance at winning.
OK? so if spending isn't that important why spend so much?
 
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