Stupid what if question.

[Sgt Brutus]

You don't think they'd put a one loss Alabama in over undefeated Wake Forest?

no

 

[rmilia1]

There is a signed 12-year agreement for a four-team playoff, and we are in the middle of the sixth year of that agreement. Nothing would change overnight. If it were to happen more than once, then they might meet and decide to adjust things going forward - but even then, it might just be expanding to a 6-team playoff starting in Year Nine.

If an unbeaten P5 gets left out ( even if it's just Wake ) that agreement would be burned within a month . Leagues are already outraged when their one loss champ gets left out . You pass over an unbeaten one and the playoffs would either expand or leagues would just withdraw from them imo

 

[kburjr]

If an unbeaten P5 gets left out ( even if it's just Wake ) that agreement would be burned within a month . Leagues are already outraged when their one loss champ gets left out . You pass over an unbeaten one and the playoffs would either expand or leagues would just withdraw from them imo

I don't know if the leagues would withdraw, but this fan surely would. It's bad enough that teams have to get an invite instead of "earning" their way in by documented criteria.(Where's @4down20 to argue the point?)

 

[rmilia1]

I don't know if the leagues would withdraw, but this fan surely would. It's bad enough that teams have to get an invite instead of "earning" their way in by documented criteria.(Where's @4down20 to argue the point?)

Well that's kind of the point . They've already opened Pandora's box when they invited non league champs but at least in those instances the teams that got passed over were 2 loss teams. I can't see any way the committee could remain viable as "neutral" if they passed over an ubbeaten P5 champ . The notion is almost preposterous

 

[BamaDude]

If an unbeaten P5 gets left out ( even if it's just Wake ) that agreement would be burned within a month . Leagues are already outraged when their one loss champ gets left out . You pass over an unbeaten one and the playoffs would either expand or leagues would just withdraw from them imo

That's still not something that can be settled overnight. The playoff set-up was a multi-lateral agreement between the conferences, the bowl games and the television provider (ESPN). Any changes to the set-up has to be agreed on by all parties. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it wouldn't be as automatic as you seem to think.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

It took 10 years after Auburn getting left out to get to a playoff. Don't think WF would cause overnight change

Probably had something to do with the SEC being dogshit in 2004.

 

[uncfan103]

You don't think they'd put a one loss Alabama in over undefeated Wake Forest?

I think Wake would get in. However, if Clemson were to lose to Wake and another 1-2 games then Alabama might get in because Wakes best win would look a lot worse.

 

[GoldRusher]

If wake goes 13-0 they're in . There will never , ever , ever be an unbeaten P5 who is left out. Clemson should be out as their schedule sucks but if the P12 has a multi loss champ and you see some upsets in other league title games their name recognition gives them a punchers chance

Agree , P5 undefeated... they gettin in....


UNLESS Notre Dame finishes with 1 loss

 

[CaptainStubing]

But what about UCF?

 

[Rolltide94]

Probably had something to do with the SEC being dogshit in 2004.

In 2004 there were 4 ranked SEC teams in the top 16...that would be a banner year for the Pac-12.

 

[Shanemansj13]

i do

very possible. I agree

 

[Rolltide94]

Given the lack of intra-conference games, you would be hard pressed to leave out an undefeated P5 conference champ, unless there were 4 other P5 undefeated teams. Hasn't happened yet, but it could.

 

[osubuckeye89]

So wake forest is sitting at 5-0. With 4 games they should win and will be favored in coming up. They’re wake forest, there is a high likelihood they blow it somewhere.

But if they are 9-0 going into the Clemson game. They beat Clemson.

clemson is a one loss team they are out right? Or do they stay ala Alabama not even making it to the acc title game.

There’s zero chance wake makes the CFP. Even winning the acc,right?

wake is 47 in espn power index. Espn FPI projects them right now to lose 4 games?

But they are 17th and 19th in the polls and can only keep climbing with wins and skyrocket beating Clemson.

ESPN's FPI is about the worst "predictor" there is out there.

That being said, Wake will probably end up losing at least 1 of those 4 games. Theyve had some close games against some not so good teams, wouldnt shock me if they lost all 4 (or won since those 4 fall into the "not so good team" category)

 

[SteelersPride]

ESPN's FPI is about the worst "predictor" there is out there.

That being said, Wake will probably end up losing at least 1 of those 4 games. Theyve had some close games against some not so good teams, wouldnt shock me if they lost all 4 (or won since those 4 fall into the "not so good team" category)

I agree, I’m just bringing up the fact it’s not that insane.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I agree, I’m just bringing up the fact it’s not that insane.

It is kind of insane that the ACC is so bad that we can have a legit convo about Wake possibly going undefeated.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

In 2004 there were 4 ranked SEC teams in the top 16...that would be a banner year for the Pac-12.

Here's Auburn's schedule for 2004:

Louisiana Monroe
Mississippi State (lost to Maine and UAB)
LSU (lost to Iowa)
The Citadel
Tennessee (lost to Notre Dame)
Louisiana Tech
Arkansas (lost to Texas)
Kentucky (lost to Louisville, Ohio)
Ole Miss (lost to Memphis, Wyoming)
Georgia (the only SEC team on this list without an OOC loss)
Alabama (lost to Minnesota)

I didn't include the conference losses on here, just the OOC ones. The SEC had a bad year. It wasn't the human polls that screwed Auburn, it was the computer polls that saw all those bad OOC losses.

 

[Olyduck]

In 2004 there were 4 ranked SEC teams in the top 16...that would be a banner year for the Pac-12.

that was the year Auburn got docked because they beat Tenn 2x causing their SOS to decrease or something stoopid like that.

 

[Olyduck]

In 2004 there were 4 ranked SEC teams in the top 16...that would be a banner year for the Pac-12.

also by the way Pac 12 2016 had 4 in top 17 with 2 in the top 5 so
2014 had 4 in the top 15
so not really

 

[osubuckeye89]

Nobody "screwed' Auburn in 2004

Preseason 1 and 2 ran the table, thats just how the cookie crumbled sometimes

 

[Wild Turkey]

I don't know if the leagues would withdraw, but this fan surely would. It's bad enough that teams have to get an invite instead of "earning" their way in by documented criteria.(Where's @4down20 to argue the point?)

The criteria is documented.

Rule #1 - Don't lose if you're a P5 team
Rule #2 - Don't forget rule #1
Rule #3 - A 1 loss Bama will always get in over any other 1 loss team because the committee is made up of homos