Starting rotation

[LHG]

Been thinkin about how the starting rotation is struggling and vaguely remembered that the rotation struggled last year in their playoff push. I looked it and here's how the starters did in August and September:

Madison Bumgarner - Aug 6 starts, 46 IP, 0.630 WHIP, 1.57 ERA
Sept 4 starts, 26.3 IP, 1.139 WHIP, 3.08 ERA

Tim Hudson - Aug 5, 28.3, 1.306, 3.81
Sept 5, 21.7, 1.846, 8.72

Tim Lincecum - Aug 4 starts, 1 relief, 19, 2.211, 8.05
Sept - all relief

Jake Peavy - Aug 6, 41.3, 1.065, 2.40
Sept 5, 31.3, 0.957, 1.44

Yusmeiro Petit - Aug 1, 6, 0.667, 0.00
Sept 5, 30.7, 1.076, 4.40

Ryan Vogelsong - Aug 6, 38.3, 0.887, 2.58
Sept 5, 27.7, 1.518, 5.53

As you can see, there were three starting pitchers who had a good August and only two who had a good September. Of course, the way September went down, if we want to see the team make the playoffs again this year we will want to see a better September than last year.

Looking at this month thus far, we've good starts from Bumgarner, Peavy and Mike Leake. Leake's on the dl, but if we get just one or two more starting pitchers string together a few good starts in August, we may have a chance.

 

[tzill]

Been thinkin about how the starting rotation is struggling and vaguely remembered that the rotation struggled last year in their playoff push. I looked it and here's how the starters did in August and September:

Madison Bumgarner - Aug 6 starts, 46 IP, 0.630 WHIP, 1.57 ERA
Sept 4 starts, 26.3 IP, 1.139 WHIP, 3.08 ERA

Tim Hudson - Aug 5, 28.3, 1.306, 3.81
Sept 5, 21.7, 1.846, 8.72

Tim Lincecum - Aug 4 starts, 1 relief, 19, 2.211, 8.05
Sept - all relief

Jake Peavy - Aug 6, 41.3, 1.065, 2.40
Sept 5, 31.3, 0.957, 1.44

Yusmeiro Petit - Aug 1, 6, 0.667, 0.00
Sept 5, 30.7, 1.076, 4.40

Ryan Vogelsong - Aug 6, 38.3, 0.887, 2.58
Sept 5, 27.7, 1.518, 5.53

As you can see, there were three starting pitchers who had a good August and only two who had a good September. Of course, the way September went down, if we want to see the team make the playoffs again this year we will want to see a better September than last year.

Looking at this month thus far, we've good starts from Bumgarner, Peavy and Mike Leake. Leake's on the dl, but if we get just one or two more starting pitchers string together a few good starts in August, we may have a chance.

Look at the IP/start from last year:

Bum: 7.2 Aug; 6.2 Sep
Huddy: 5.2; 4.1
Timmy: <5
Peavy: 6.2; 6.1
Petit: 6.0; 6
Tron: 6.1; 5.2

Huddy was useless down the stretch last year; Timmy out of the rotation in Sep; Vogey faded.

In Chicago, we didn't have a SP get an out in the sixth inning, and only one SP (Peavy) got an out in the fifth. That's atrocious. The bullpen is beat up and no amount of hitting can carry that sort of moundshattery.

Bum/Heston/Leake/Peavy/Cain have to consistently give us 6.2 innings or we are done.

It'll be an interesting few weeks to see if we can stay in contact with the doyers. At least it's very clear to Evans what we need to do in the offseason, and re-signing Leake won't be enough. We need Price, Cueto, or Zimmerman as well.

 

[filosofy29]

I think signing Leake is good enough. I'd love something more though. wouldn't mind a solid BP arm as wel.

I think a full year of Bum, Leake, Heston, Peavy and Cain beats a full year of Bum, Heston, Vogelsong, Timmy and Peavy/Cain. I'm not expecting Cain to ever be again what he once was, but I think he could be a more than serviceable #5 next year.

I'd love an ace to sign, but not for the duration/money that those guys command.

Not saying that you're wrong, just my humble opinion.

 

[tzill]

I think signing Leake is good enough. I'd love something more though. wouldn't mind a solid BP arm as wel.

I think a full year of Bum, Leake, Heston, Peavy and Cain beats a full year of Bum, Heston, Vogelsong, Timmy and Peavy/Cain. I'm not expecting Cain to ever be again what he once was, but I think he could be a more than serviceable #5 next year.

I'd love an ace to sign, but not for the duration/money that those guys command.

Not saying that you're wrong, just my humble opinion.

Oh, I get it: investing in premium FA SP is usually a losing proposition. You hope for 2 excellent years, 2 good years, and then a disasterous back end of the contract. Zito never gave us excellence, he was good maybe one year. But he DID pitch this game:


And that start alone was worth $126M

 

[msgkings322]

Oh, I get it: investing in premium FA SP is usually a losing proposition. You hope for 2 excellent years, 2 good years, and then a disasterous back end of the contract. Zito never gave us excellence, he was good maybe one year. But he DID pitch this game:


And that start alone was worth $126M

I've been thinking about this. Snark aside, that contract was a disaster. But the Giants won 2 rings with it around their neck. They can afford one deal like that, great for a couple of years, then ok, then shitty. It's how the game works now. You just gotta sign one big FA stud for 7 years $200 mil (yuck!)

It offends all of us self-styled GMs, but it's where the game is now. Thanks LA!