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So, how much credit does Vogel deserve?

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Is he finally doing what he couldn't do with the Pacers and Orlando...Evolving as a coach?

Or is he just a product of James and Davis?

Thoughts?
 

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He deserves negative credit... Lakers would be 16-0 if Vogel wasn't weighing them down.
 
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Is he finally doing what he couldn't do with the Pacers and Orlando...Evolving as a coach?

Or is he just a product of James and Davis?

Thoughts?

The same amount of credit Tyronn Lue and Steve Kerr got. Or even Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach for that matter.
 

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The same amount of credit Tyronn Lue and Steve Kerr got. Or even Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach for that matter.
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I'm actually going to retract my Phil and Red part of my previous comment. While they did indeed have help from superstars on their teams, they were in a league of their own.

Guys like Lue and Kerr are literally riding on the coat-tails of their superstars though.
 

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I'm actually going to retract my Phil and Red part of my previous comment. While they did indeed have help from superstars on their teams, they were in a league of their own.

Guys like Lue and Kerr are literally riding on the coat-tails of their superstars though.

agree on Lue. Kerr I'd give a little bit more time, but we'll see...
 

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A little of both. I think he's likely at least partially responsible for the defense the Lakers have been playing.
 

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He has always been a solid coach. Not great, but solid.

Give him talent, he can win.

Pretty much spot on. Nothing special, but the Lakers could (and have) done a lot worse. lol
 

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The same amount of credit Tyronn Lue and Steve Kerr got. Or even Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach for that matter.

One of these things is not like the other...
 

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Too early to say. They've been playing a month. You don't have to be Popovich to know Davis and James can play together
 

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A little of both. I think he's likely at least partially responsible for the defense the Lakers have been playing.

lol, if he gets the Lakers to play defense like they did last night on a consistent basis he's coach of the year imo...
 

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A complete idiot could coach Le2ndFiddle/The best Player in the world in AD and otherwise stacked colluding team to a title. LOL

What credit?.

Lets not forget theres know fully healthy superteam around to go against them either since GS broke up the band
 

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A complete idiot could coach Le2ndFiddle/The best Player in the world in AD and otherwise stacked colluding team to a title. LOL

What credit?.

Lets not forget theres know fully healthy superteam around to go against them either since GS broke up the band

Interesting.

I thought LeBron was overrated? Their caste beyond LeBron isn’t that great.

So now you are saying that Davis is carrying them? Because the only argument for the Lakers being “stacked” would be that LeBron and Davis are BOTH high end superstars.

Which is what sane people believe.
 

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Interesting.

I thought LeBron was overrated? Their caste beyond LeBron isn’t that great.

So now you are saying that Davis is carrying them? Because the only argument for the Lakers being “stacked” would be that LeBron and Davis are BOTH high end superstars.

Which is what sane people believe.
He's not even in the ball park of sanity. Ive seen horses smarter then him
 
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