Sixers should have a chip on their shoulder

[fightinfunbags]

This is my shocked face.

We're all homers to some extent but you're taking it too far.

I’m absolutely a homer. But I’m not wrong in this case.

 

[msgkings322]

I’m absolutely a homer. But I’m not wrong in this case.

Yes. No.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yes. No.

Nikola Jokic is the MVP of the league because everyone else got hurt.

^^^We good now?

 

[flyerhawk]

Jokic was the MVP. Monty or Thibs were the CoY. Simmons was the DPOY but they gave it to Gobert because every defensive metric wildly overrates in the paint bigs.

Daryl Morey should win Executive of the Year. Converting Josh Richardson and Al Horford into Seth Curry and Danny Green while only giving up a protected 2025 1st was a serious flex for Morey.

 

[shopson67]

Yep I agree with all of this.

Embiid was going to be the MVP if he missed 10 or so fewer games. Can't expect to win MVP if you miss 20 or so games

As for COY, you are correct.

Thibs, Monty, and Snyder are all more deserving. Doc rightfully finished 4th.

I would argue that Nate should have pushed Doc and probably Snyder down a spot. Took over on 3/1 and brought the Hawks from a dysfunctional lottery team midseason to the conference semifinals (at least). 27-11 under Nate (.711) after starting the season 14-20.

 

[msgkings322]

Nikola Jokic is the MVP of the league because everyone else got hurt.

^^^We good now?

That's more like it. I've said previously his MVP will look a little "soft" like Steve Nash's do, for that reason.

 

[shopson67]

Embiid got 1 first place vote. Jokic got 91 first place votes. Steph Curry (5) had more first place votes than Embiid.

That and Jokic beating him by almost 400 points in the voting says that he wasn't in the running. To be fair though, it also says that no one else was really in the running either.

Rose got 1 first place vote, lol. Coming off the bench.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That's more like it. I've said previously his MVP will look a little "soft" like Steve Nash's do, for that reason.

I think we have found a meeting of the minds. Jokic was gifted an award for winning perfect attendance.

 

[shopson67]

That's more like it. I've said previously his MVP will look a little "soft" like Steve Nash's do, for that reason.

Although, that could be due to injury too (on his own team). If the Nuggets were complete, they could be in strong contention for the finals.

 

[shopson67]

Jokic was the MVP. Monty or Thibs were the CoY. Simmons was the DPOY but they gave it to Gobert because every defensive metric wildly overrates in the paint bigs.

Daryl Morey should win Executive of the Year. Converting Josh Richardson and Al Horford into Seth Curry and Danny Green while only giving up a protected 2025 1st was a serious flex for Morey.

Gobert just won a playoff game with a wildly overrated blocked shot to prevent a game-tying shot.

 

[msgkings322]

Although, that could be due to injury too (on his own team). If the Nuggets were complete, they could be in strong contention for the finals.

But how would that justify it more? My point was most NBA geeks don't think Nash was really the best player in the league when he won TWO MVPs just as most don't think Jokic is .

 

[fightinfunbags]

But how would that justify it more? My point was most NBA geeks don't think Nash was really the best player in the league when he won TWO MVPs just as most don't think Jokic is .

He’s not even a top ten talent in the league right now.

 

[shopson67]

Joker is trash as a defensive player. He was still eligible based on the games he played. Essentially what you’re saying is because Joel Embiid had a knee injury a lesser player deserves his MVP award.

How valuable was he in street clothes?

 

[shopson67]

But how would that justify it more? My point was most NBA geeks don't think Nash was really the best player in the league when he won TWO MVPs just as most don't think Jokic is .

If Nash had won a ring, or at least gotten to the finals, it wouldn't be as glaring of a choice.

 

[shopson67]

I’m absolutely a homer. But I’m not wrong in this case.

Doc had the exact same winning percentage with the Clips last year and was let go.

 

[msgkings322]

He’s not even a top ten talent in the league right now.

Name the 10 you'd rather have

 

[fightinfunbags]

How valuable was he in street clothes?

Good point. If Embiid played more games the Sixers could have won home court in the East.

 

[trojanfan12]

Essentially what you’re saying is because Joel Embiid had a knee injury a lesser player deserves his MVP award.

Basically, yes. You can also say that Lebron lost his shot because of a high ankle sprain. Sometimes these awards can be a war of attrition and of the players in the hunt, Joker was the last one standing.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Name the 10 you'd rather have

Be more specific. Am I drafting guys I want going forward (aka age is a factor). Or am I just picking 10 more talented guys in the league right now this moment?

 

[msgkings322]

Be more specific. Am I drafting guys I want going forward (aka age is a factor). Or am I just picking 10 more talented guys in the league right now this moment?

You brought it up. Which 10 guys did you mean?