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Should Larry Walker be in the HOF?

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  1. raptorlife4

    raptorlife4 Long Time Member

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    65% he got

    I think he should be a shoe in . Getting punished for playing at coors field but that shouldnt make a difference
     



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    he was awesome in Montreal too (128 OPS+ and 21.3 WAR in 654 games (5.3 WAR per 650 PA)). it's not like his bat fell off when he went to St. Louis (134 OPS+ at age 38-39 before retiring). Great hitter (.313/.400/.565, 141 OPS+) even after you adjust for his era and Coors Field, a very good baserunner and a great fielder (7 Gold Gloves, +94 Total Zone Runs). He had 72.7 WAR in just over 8000 PA and averaged nearly 6 WAR per 650 games. He was very good for a long time (4+ WAR in ten seasons, 48.3 Wins Above Average) and has a strong peak (7.8 WAR in 2001 and 9.8 in 1997). He's 11th all-time among right fielders in WAR7, 10th in JAWS and 11th in WAR (all figures above the averages for HOF right fielders).

    easy yes for me.
     
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    Yes....I'll try to find the article I was reading the other day, but if you look at his numbers (particularity sabermetrics) compared to HOF right fielders, he's right around the average of that group.
     
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    I think so, but I'm pretty biased. Walker saw a significant jump in vote percentage this year but he's only got a couple of cycles left. The players eligible in the next 2 years doesn't bode well for the guys who have been stuck on the ballot. It's still insane Walker, Edgar, and Mussina can't get in.
     
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    Walker was one of the most pure hitters I have ever seen.
    Amazing outfielder as well. Would be a shame if he is held out
     
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    right field seems like a pretty top heavy position too. There's 5 right fielders with 105+ WAR (Ruth, Aaron, Musial, Ott, Robinson) and two more north of 90 (Clemente and Kaline). Then there's a pretty big gap between Kaline and the next guy (Reggie Jackson at 74 WAR, Walker's at 72.7). It's the only position to have 5 guys with 90+ WAR and there's seven of them.
     
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    I think he's a yes but I don't feel as strongly about it as others seem to. I also confess I haven't recently looked at it closely, and he IS still a yes for me.
     
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    Yes
     
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    Hes on my fence... but i think if he is in then so has to be todd helton...
     
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    He is in the hall of pretty good......but not the hall worthy.
     
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    Wally Joyner was pretty good. Walker was easily better than Joyner, no?
     
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    I really did not get to see joyner so .........
     
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    Harold Baines just opened up a new door, patience.
     
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    Absolutely YES on Larry Walker!
     
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    Much of Joyner's career overlapped with Walker's, so if you didn't really see Joyner play, did you really see Walker play (particularly during his prime)?

    Either way, you don't win 3 batting titles, an MVP, 7 gold gloves, and have a 70+ WAR by just being pretty good...
     
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    why not? He won't hurt the Hall.
     
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    Hall of Famer

    .298/ .352/ .502/ .854/ 128 ops+
    47 WAR



    Not a Hall of Famer

    .313/ .400/ .565/ .965/ 141 ops+
    72.7 WAR
     
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    it must suck for Nolan Arenado to already know he will never be a Hall of Famer since he has played in Colorado
     
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    Ray Lankford and Paul O'Neill for HOF!
     
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    you can't be serious in comparing Langford and O'neill with Walker..

    150 more HR, 500 more rbi, 40 points on BA against langford in a short look.

    The only number O'neill is better than Walker in is GDP.