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Early line I'm seeing is 10.5, I don't think Seattle covers that as of now
 

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Well, as if he didn't have enough to worry about, Ron Rivera's house caught on fire last night.
 

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Just because nfc west fans were the main ones shitting on the south this year, it would make my day if the panthers eliminate both nfc west teams and get stomped out by Dallas or Green Bay in the nfc title game....That's my hope

Pretty sure I'm wrong but a man can dream
 

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Spread opened at Seahawks -10. That is a ridiculous number for a playoff game. Also goes to show it doesn't guarantee anything.

I was expecting an 11 point spread. 10 probably makes more sense though.
 

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I'm not grasping for anything. My only point was Cam isn't some slow pocket QB so if his accuracy is off, they have other ways which they can use him.

I guess you disagree and you assume that the only way Cam can be used is in the pocket like Peyton Manning right? No way Cam will dare take off and scramble on Saturday night....

Running QBs aren't usually much of a problem for the Seahawks. Cam is 0-3 in the past 3 years against the Hawks. Kaep is 1-5. Rodgers is 0-2, with an asterisk.

The Seahawks probably have the fastest defense in football. It is why they are so good against screens and bubbles.

If the Panthers are going to beat Seattle, Newton is going to need to be very accurate.
 

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Running QBs aren't usually much of a problem for the Seahawks. Cam is 0-3 in the past 3 years against the Hawks. Kaep is 1-5. Rodgers is 0-2, with an asterisk.

The Seahawks probably have the fastest defense in football. It is why they are so good against screens and bubbles.

If the Panthers are going to beat Seattle, Newton is going to need to be very accurate.


that is the one thing he is not
 

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Based on Seattle last 3 home games, they don't exactly come out firing on all cylinders at home. Seattle is avg 4 points in the first half of their last 3 home games while they're avg over 12 ppg in the first half of their last 3 road games. If that stat holds true on Saturday, Carolina got a great chance to be in it to win it heading to the 4th
 

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Based on Seattle last 3 home games, they don't exactly come out firing on all cylinders at home. Seattle is avg 4 points in the first half of their last 3 home games while they're avg over 12 ppg in the first half of their last 3 road games. If that stat holds true on Saturday, Carolina got a great chance to be in it to win it heading to the 4th

I expect the game to be pretty close at half time and for the Seahawks to win by about 10.

Turnovers, of course, could change that either way.
 

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Based on Seattle last 3 home games, they don't exactly come out firing on all cylinders at home. Seattle is avg 4 points in the first half of their last 3 home games while they're avg over 12 ppg in the first half of their last 3 road games. If that stat holds true on Saturday, Carolina got a great chance to be in it to win it heading to the 4th

In the last three games, all in Charlotte, the Panthers have mustered one offensive TD and average about six points per game against the Hawks defense.
 

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Yeah, and Carolina is way more likely to turn it over. For Carolina to win, they need it to be like 13-10, 17-14, something like that. I think if Seattle scores 20 they have it in the bag
 

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Based on Seattle last 3 home games, they don't exactly come out firing on all cylinders at home. Seattle is avg 4 points in the first half of their last 3 home games while they're avg over 12 ppg in the first half of their last 3 road games. If that stat holds true on Saturday, Carolina got a great chance to be in it to win it heading to the 4th

The Hawks don't come out and set the world on fire in the first half, they take what they can get and pound on the defense, wearing them down. Then come the second half, the blows start building up until they get the knockout, running away with games in the 4th quarter.

I just have a feeling Cam is going to be in over his head in this game, I don't think he has ever seen or felt anything like he will on Saturday!
 

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Based on Seattle last 3 home games, they don't exactly come out firing on all cylinders at home. Seattle is avg 4 points in the first half of their last 3 home games while they're avg over 12 ppg in the first half of their last 3 road games. If that stat holds true on Saturday, Carolina got a great chance to be in it to win it heading to the 4th

And if their second half stats hold true, the Hawks will run away with it late.

I see this game going one of two ways. Either its close at halftime And the Hawks pull away in the second half, or they get some early turnovers and blow them out.

Either way, the Hawks win by two TDs.
 

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Carolina forced more turnovers than Seattle but give it up more thsn Seattle also. In the last 2 meetings Seattle has won the turnover battle 4 to 3
 

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Can we please look at who Carolina has beaten during their recent "hot streak" they got fead exclusively nfc south teams and the one team outside their division they played??? the browns.... So lets please not act like they are world beaters.
 

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Yeah, and Carolina is way more likely to turn it over. For Carolina to win, they need it to be like 13-10, 17-14, something like that. I think if Seattle scores 20 they have it in the bag

I agree. IMO the wildcard is Jonathan Stewart. He had a good game in the first meeting and is really running well as he has gone over 122 yards on 24 or less carries 3x in the last 5 games
 

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Can we please look at who Carolina has beaten during their recent "hot streak" they got fead exclusively nfc south teams and the one team outside their division they played??? the browns.... So lets please not act like they are world beaters.

Baller certainly has no problem reminding us that the Seahawks haven't faced a great QB in the 2nd half of the season. Somehow he hasn't mentioned this fact for some reason. Don't know why.
 

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Can we please look at who Carolina has beaten during their recent "hot streak" they got fead exclusively nfc south teams and the one team outside their division they played??? the browns.... So lets please not act like they are world beaters.

Who's acting like their world beaters? They made changes in their defense as they went younger and that's what changed their season around. I don't see anyone kn here acting like they're world beaters. Most have just acknowledged that they have a good defense and they play a similar style to Seattle on offense. What's the issue? As I said the other day, the nfc south has better offensive teams than the west so it's pretty impressive that their defense were able to hold Atlanta and New Orleans to an avg of 10 points in their 3 games against those teams since week 11. They made changes to their team after the blowout to Philadelphia and it has greatly improved the team
 

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I agree. IMO the wildcard is Jonathan Stewart. He had a good game in the first meeting and is really running well as he has gone over 122 yards on 24 or less carries 3x in the last 5 games

Best run defense he faced in that span: Tampa Bay, #19 in the NFL.
 

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Baller certainly has no problem reminding us that the Seahawks haven't faced a great QB in the 2nd half of the season. Somehow he hasn't mentioned this fact for some reason. Don't know why.

Matt Ryan & drew brees are obviously better than kaep and the other garbage Seattle has played after the KC game. Teddy is also better than lindley, Stanton, & the rams qb.

Carolina has played better qbs over thw last few weeks. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot
 
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