Rumored 3-way trade with the Magic and Hornets

[CitySushi]

It's unclear who will be ending up where, although it's pretty sure that Monta would end up in Orlando. Here are the outgoing pieces rumored:

Warriors: Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright & Andris Biedrins

Magic: Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Reddick & Quentin Richardsdon

Hornets: Unclear (although Kaman is rumored. Could be Okafor though).

Three Team Ellis To Magic Trade Being Discussed - RealGM Wiretap

 

[CameronFrye]

It's unclear who will be ending up where, although it's pretty sure that Monta would end up in Orlando. Here are the outgoing pieces rumored:

Warriors: Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright & Andris Biedrins

Magic: Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Reddick & Quentin Richardsdon

Hornets: Unclear (although Kaman is rumored. Could be Okafor though).

Three Team Ellis To Magic Trade Being Discussed - RealGM Wiretap

With the pieces discussed, Orlando has about and Golden State have about $23 mil in outgoing salaries. Kaman is making $14 mil in the final year of his contract, so New Orleans would have to cough up another $7 mil or so in contracts to make this 3-team deal work.

Orlando would almost have to receive both Monta and Biedrins because there is no way that the NBA-owned Hornets would be allowed to take on Beans' contract. So let's say that is true.

Orlando receives: Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright & Andris Biedrins

New Orleans receives: Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Reddick & Quentin Richardsdon

Golden State receives: Chris Kaman, Trevor Ariza. I would prefer that the Warriors get Belinelli and Grevis Vasquez instead of Ariza, but, again, I don't see the NBA braintrust allowing Vasquez out the door.

By the way, there's almost zero chance the deal happens because Turkoglu is not going to be allowed to join the Hornets. Not with $23 mil+ left on his contract.

 

[CameronFrye]

Plus, there are sources who are already shooting down the Monta to Orlando rumor:

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[CitySushi]

With the pieces discussed, Orlando and Golden State have about $20 mil in outgoing salaries. Kaman is making $14 mil in the final year of his contract, so New Orlands would have to cough up another $6 mil or so in contracts to make this 3-team deal work.

Orlando would almost have to receive both Monta and Biedrins because there is no way that the NBA-owned Hornets would be allowed to take on Beans' contract. So let's say that is true.

Orlando receives: Monta Ellis, Andris Biedrins

New Orleans receives: Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Reddick & Quentin Richardsdon

Golden State receives: Chris Kaman, Trevor Ariza. I would prefer that the Warriors get Belinelli and Grevis Vasquez instead of Ariza, but, again, I don't see the NBA braintrust allowing Vasquez out the door.

By the way, there's almost zero chance the deal happens because Turkoglu is not going to be allowed to join the Hornets. Not with $23 mil+ left on his contract.

I would think the Warriors would take on Turk, with a 1st Rd pick from NOH. Adding Ryan Anderson and JJ, without having to take on Turk would be worth a 1st.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

What an awful rumor. Yes the Warriors get rid of some contracts but Kaman isn't enough to satisfy trading Ellis. Plus everyone and their momma knows we aren't doing any trades to help keep Howard in Orlando. We need to do something that gets rid of Bieds and Lee.

 

[CameronFrye]

I would think the Warriors would take on Turk, with a 1st Rd pick from NOH. Adding Ryan Anderson and JJ, without having to take on Turk would be worth a 1st.

But then the salaries do not match up. Golden State would have to take on Kaman. Adding Turk and Ariza would put their total salary return at $30 mil while New Orleans' total return would be roughly $12 mil. Because all three teams are at or over the salary cap, this deal would not be allowed to happen.

To make the deal work, the Hornets would have to take on either Biedrins or Turkoglu. Because New Orleans has Okafor, Gustavo Ayon and Solomon Jones, they have no place to put Biedrins. Turkoglu makes some sense because the only real SFs the Hornets have right now are Ariza and Al-Farouq Aminu. If Ariza is traded, Turk slides right in and takes most of Ariza's minutes behind Aminu.

But, like I said earlier, I just don't see this happening because the NBA owns the Hornets and they are not going to ship out a huge expiring contract like Kaman's for JJ Reddick, Ryan Anderson and a vastly overpaid Hedo Turkoglu.

 

[CitySushi]

But then the salaries do not match up. Golden State would have to take on Kaman. Adding Turk and Ariza would put their total salary return at $30 mil while New Orleans' total return would be roughly $12 mil. Because all three teams are at or over the salary cap, this deal would not be allowed to happen.

To make the deal work, the Hornets would have to take on either Biedrins or Turkoglu. Because New Orleans has Okafor, Gustavo Ayon and Solomon Jones, they have no place to put Biedrins. Turkoglu makes some sense because the only real SFs the Hornets have right now are Ariza and Al-Farouq Aminu. If Ariza is traded, Turk slides right in and takes most of Ariza's minutes behind Aminu.

But, like I said earlier, I just don't see this happening because the NBA owns the Hornets and they are not going to ship out a huge expiring contract like Kaman's for JJ Reddick, Ryan Anderson and a vastly overpaid Hedo Turkoglu.

Salary-wise, Ariza wouldn't have to be included in the deal at all. IF it went down, I'd imagine this sort of deal:

Warriors: Kaman, Turk, NOH 1st

Orlando: Monta, Biedrins, Wright

NOH: Anderson, Redick, Q-Rich. They also clear nearly 3M in returning cap.