Real DH leagues....why so few?

[TKOSpikes]

I just don't get it. DH is a position too. We've used it in my money league since the beginning (23 years). To qualify, a player needs to have 20 games logged at DH the previous season and 10 games in-season to gain the eligibility.

There is NOT too few to be relevant.

My league is 15 teams snd we have a rule where it can be DH or a 2nd C. Smaller leagues wouldn't need the rule as there are well over 30 players that qualify.

I really don't get it. It makes guys like Papi (not so much this year) and Victor have draft value. Especially in small leagues, it's an extra position, so waivers isn't full of really good players.

Am I alone on this in the SportsHoopla FB world?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I just don't get it. DH is a position too. We've used it in my money league since the beginning (23 years). To qualify, a player needs to have 20 games logged at DH the previous season and 10 games in-season to gain the eligibility.

There is NOT too few to be relevant.

My league is 15 teams snd we have a rule where it can be DH or a 2nd C. Smaller leagues wouldn't need the rule as there are well over 30 players that qualify.

I really don't get it. It makes guys like Papi (not so much this year) and Victor have draft value. Especially in small leagues, it's an extra position, so waivers isn't full of really good players.

Am I alone on this in the SportsHoopla FB world?

i think it overvalues DH... Part of whats great about not counting them is that only the best are relevant... If you count them then the BEST DH become so much more valuable because now they have a fantasy spot holder with little competition...

 

[TKOSpikes]

i think it overvalues DH... Part of whats great about not counting them is that only the best are relevant... If you count them then the BEST DH become so much more valuable because now they have a fantasy spot holder with little competition...

Exactly! Why should Victor be a 9th round pick?

 

[obxyankeefan]

If you are doing an AL only league ok, but almost every player can be used at at least 1 position other then Utility. And any player can be used at Utility, so it is your DH.

 

[TKOSpikes]

If you are doing an AL only league ok, but almost every player can be used at at least 1 position other then Utility. And any player can be used at Utility, so it is your DH.

I'm not talking about DH vs Util. I'm talking adding a DH slot.

Just surprised it's not even remotely popular. As someone who plays it that way, I highly recommend it.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I have played in DH leagues and like any other league if you know and understand the rules going in you will be ale to make do. I prefer if you want to pick someone up like Edgar MArtinez that is a straight DH, you have to burn one of your Utility spots.

JMO

 

[TREFF]

The DH is Satan spawn, and that's my only thoughts on it

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I'm not talking about DH vs Util. I'm talking adding a DH slot.

Just surprised it's not even remotely popular. As someone who plays it that way, I highly recommend it.

I don't play it, wouldn't set it up as a rule ever... But wouldn't be opposed to playing with it... I just think it overvalues those DH players... But if it was a Yahoo league, I wouldn't mind...

 

[TKOSpikes]

Over valuing DH? What does that even mean? Did you take a look at SS this year? Is there not a bigger drop off from great to terrible?

Weak sauce excuse.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Over valuing DH? What does that even mean? Did you take a look at SS this year? Is there not a bigger drop off from great to terrible?

Weak sauce excuse.

consider it a defensive metric, a player should not be rewarded if they don't play the field...

But with the REAL DH spot, now you can draft that real DH sooner in the draft, because now you gave him flexibility(assuming you also have a Utility spot)...

If you don't have a utility spot also, then I guess it is no big deal...

 

[TKOSpikes]

consider it a defensive metric, a player should not be rewarded if they don't play the field...

But with the REAL DH spot, now you can draft that real DH sooner in the draft, because now you gave him flexibility(assuming you also have a Utility spot)...

If you don't have a utility spot also, then I guess it is no big deal...

1. Defense is irrelevant in 99% of FB leagues.
2. That's my point. What's the problem with having to draft them higher? In non-DH leagues, Victor Martinez, last year was a 9th - 10th rounder, yet he was a top five fantasy hitter. You don't see a problem with that?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

1. Defense is irrelevant in 99% of FB leagues.
2. That's my point. What's the problem with having to draft them higher? In non-DH leagues, Victor Martinez, last year was a 9th - 10th rounder, yet he was a top five fantasy hitter. You don't see a problem with that?

1. if defense was so irrelevant then why do we group players by position??
2. No I don't see a problem with that... I just don't like giving DH players the flexibility... Now, it would be very different in a league that has no utility spot...

 

[TKOSpikes]

DH Eligible players

Pujols
Miggy
Prince
Bautista
Cruz
A-Rod
Cespedes
Edwin
Abreu
Hunter
Lind
Morales
Forsythe
Davis
Gattis
Parades
Santana
Moreland
Carter
Ortiz
Choo
Mauer
Butler
Beltran
Laroche
Victor

...and a handful of others.

Can you name that many relevant SS?

 

[TKOSpikes]

1. if defense was so irrelevant then why do we group players by position??
2. No I don't see a problem with that... I just don't like giving DH players the flexibility... Now, it would be very different in a league that has no utility spot...

To avoid a cluster fuck and add some type of reality?
Don't see what the Util spot has to do with it.

 

[TKOSpikes]

It is RARE that a player is DH only. So they have flexibility anyway. And more often than not, you'll play your DH at DH. So again, why is the flexibility at U any different than another position player?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

To avoid a cluster fuck and add some type of reality?
Don't see what the Util spot has to do with it.

If there is no utilty spot and only the REAL DH... then it would be the same thing as any other position...

With the Utility AND REAL DH, then now you are giving flexibility to these DH players, and makes them MORE valuable than the average player...


Basically what I am saying is if you do use the REAL DH spot, you can NOT use the utility spot as well... It is one or the other...

 

[TKOSpikes]

If there is no utilty spot and only the REAL DH... then it would be the same thing as any other position...

With the Utility AND REAL DH, then now you are giving flexibility to these DH players, and makes them MORE valuable than the average player...


Basically what I am saying is if you do use the REAL DH spot, you can NOT use the utility spot as well... It is one or the other...

Sorry. I just don't see that for reasons I've stated.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Say you had Goldy, Rizzo and Teixeira. One at 1B, one at CI, and one at Util. How is that okay?

 

[TKOSpikes]

@Reverend Jim - I'd love to hear the Assembly's POV.