Ranking the supporting casts of recent first round qb's

[SteelersPride]

Ranking the supporting casts of recent first-round quarterbacks | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

1)Josh Allen
2)Lamar Jackson
3)Baker Mayfield
4)Kyler Murray
5)Daniel Jones
6)Dwayne Haskins

Surprising that a team with OBJ, Landry, hooper, Njoku, Chubb, hunt is 3rd...........

Fitz, kirk, hopkins, drake is 4........

I know there were a ton of injuries but Engram, Barkley, Tate, Slayton, Shephard are 5?

Jacksons regime of 1 TE, and some under-performing wr's are 2? I dont get the Marquise brown hype.....

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Mayfield has the best supporting cast.

 

[SteelersPride]

Mayfield has the best supporting cast.

i agree.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Can see how this would be the rankings when factoring OL’s. Kind of questioning how the Ravens won’t be 1 after this WR draft.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

i agree.

Still not really buying on the OL and the stock is down sharply on several of those other guys for right now. There’s a case for the Browns, but that’s lot of ifs and buts right now.

 

[SteelersPride]

Still not really buying on the OL and the stock is down sharply on several of those other guys for right now. There’s a case for the Browns, but that’s lot of ifs and buts right now.

i agree, but i dunno i dont see it........

 

[redseat]

All the talent Baker has and yet they haven't clicked yet. IF they do they could be nasty. All starts with OBJs attitude. I also wonder if Baker is more interested in commercials then football

 

[SteelersPride]

All the talent Baker has and yet they haven't clicked yet. IF they do they could be nasty. All starts with OBJs attitude. I also wonder if Baker is more interested in commercials then football

Strangely though, that was part of my point they have bakers cast as 3rd!!

 

[Shanemansj13]

The most important thing about supporting cast is OL and coaching...then we can talk about weapons. The Browns were piss poor in both of those. Baker is still top 3 but I think they got it right. I mean Freddie Kitchens alone puts Baker at 2 or 3 on that list lol

 

[Iggloo]

It's an interesting list. The addition of OL helps explain the rankings, somewhat. I still think Bills are likely too high, but we will see how much of a difference Diggs makes.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

The most important thing about supporting cast is OL and coaching...then we can talk about weapons. The Browns were piss poor in both of those. Baker is still top 3 but I think they got it right. I mean Freddie Kitchens alone puts Baker at 2 or 3 on that list lol

Think the Browns have really helped Baker with the additions of Conklin, Hooper, and full back Janovich. However think his pass volume takes a major hit under Stefanski, who likes a more run heavy attack. In part though he'll make some up by being more efficient. Think it's a good thing for his career TBH.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Ranking the supporting casts of recent first-round quarterbacks | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

1)Josh Allen
2)Lamar Jackson
3)Baker Mayfield
4)Kyler Murray
5)Daniel Jones
6)Dwayne Haskins

Surprising that a team with OBJ, Landry, hooper, Njoku, Chubb, hunt is 3rd...........

Fitz, kirk, hopkins, drake is 4........

I know there were a ton of injuries but Engram, Barkley, Tate, Slayton, Shephard are 5?

Jacksons regime of 1 TE, and some under-performing wr's are 2? I dont get the Marquise brown hype.....

Hard to argue one way or another with the list.

Trying to be objective, but honestly, I like the cards supporting staff and wouldn't swap them for any of the others.

 

[SteelersPride]

Hard to argue one way or another with the list.

Trying to be objective, but honestly, I like the cards supporting staff and wouldn't swap them for any of the others.

Regardless I'm Sorry I don't see how the top 2 , are the top 2

 

[dtgold88]

Ranking the supporting casts of recent first-round quarterbacks | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

1)Josh Allen
2)Lamar Jackson
3)Baker Mayfield
4)Kyler Murray
5)Daniel Jones
6)Dwayne Haskins

Surprising that a team with OBJ, Landry, hooper, Njoku, Chubb, hunt is 3rd...........

Fitz, kirk, hopkins, drake is 4........

I know there were a ton of injuries but Engram, Barkley, Tate, Slayton, Shephard are 5?

Jacksons regime of 1 TE, and some under-performing wr's are 2? I dont get the Marquise brown hype.....

Yeah...almost seems like he just picked order out of a hat. Baker for sure not #1 (could even see 4th) as a QB but only the cast? Seems like clear #1.

 

[dtgold88]

Still not really buying on the OL and the stock is down sharply on several of those other guys for right now. There’s a case for the Browns, but that’s lot of ifs and buts right now.

The ifs and buts for Browns is the coaching. Browns had the top O-line for second half of 2018, especially in keeping baker upright. Probelme was Freddie dumped everyone who made them successful.Difference is they will replace Hubbard, Zeitler and Robinson with Conklin and 2 others (maybe only 1 as Hubbard might be the RG). Tretter and Bitonio stay. with adults in charge again they should be far better in 2020 I would think.

But, yeah, still an unknown.

 

[dtgold88]

All the talent Baker has and yet they haven't clicked yet. IF they do they could be nasty. All starts with OBJs attitude. I also wonder if Baker is more interested in commercials then football

all starts with coaching. Baker clicked with far lesser players in 2018.

 

[dtgold88]

The most important thing about supporting cast is OL and coaching...then we can talk about weapons. The Browns were piss poor in both of those. Baker is still top 3 but I think they got it right. I mean Freddie Kitchens alone puts Baker at 2 or 3 on that list lol

I think good coaching and better scheme will improve the O-line....never mind adding Conklin.

 

[dtgold88]

Think the Browns have really helped Baker with the additions of Conklin, Hooper, and full back Janovich. However think his pass volume takes a major hit under Stefanski, who likes a more run heavy attack. In part though he'll make some up by being more efficient. Think it's a good thing for his career TBH.

Yeah...Baker was so much better in 12 personnel last year. Of course, our dunderhead of a coach ignored this info. Stefanski, I believe, ran it as much or more than everyone last season and they should get back to doing what was working in 2018.

12, quick passes, play action, etc.

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah...almost seems like he just picked order out of a hat. Baker for sure not #1 (could even see 4th) as a QB but only the cast? Seems like clear #1.

right, thats what i thought too.........i know they bought in pieces for allen, but they arent on the cast in clevelands level.

 

[dtgold88]

right, thats what i thought too.........i know they bought in pieces for allen, but they arent on the cast in clevelands level.

correct.

Now add in coaching and/or defense? That's a different matter.

**I do like our new coach/FO, but hard to give anyone benefit of the doubt without seeing results first here.