Yeah, I don't get that either. Defintely top 8, but not anywhere near the second tier teams, IMO. I will play. And I like Wiggy's tier system: Tier 1: Golden State Tier 2: Boston Houston Philly (jumps to 2 with Kawhi) Tier 3: Pelicans Lakers Jazz Thunder TWolves Nuggets Spurs Tier 4 Raptors Pacers Blazers Wizards Bucks Also, I will say I am literally in awe that so many have East Coast teams other than Philly and Boston in their top 8, let alone top 5. The non elite teams in the West are SOOOO much better than the nonelite teams in the East.