Rangers vs. Indians this weekend

[lainey12]

Per MLB trade rumors the Rangers have considered trading Nathan.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!?????
no way, for what?

or you mean hence the word "have", not any longer

 

[DT LUNA]

I don't particularly want him gone. I want to see accountability and that comes from two levels. The players have to contribute as well. Not much credit is due past the pitchers.

If Wash is not accountable then who is. Managers always have been. Like military generals, they get it done or the next one in line does. Has to be that way.

 

[Justinkm83]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!?????
no way, for what?

or you mean hence the word "have", not any longer

The Rangers have considered trading closer Joe Nathan, Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports. The move would be aimed at taking advantage of the Rangers' deep bullpen and this year's thin relief pitching market.
With his 1.73 ERA in 41 2/3 innings this year, Nathan would immediately become the top closer on the market, Rosenthal says, placing him ahead of the Phillies' Jonathan Papelbon, who may not even be traded.
Former Royals closer Joakim Soria could step into the role for Texas, according to Rosenthal's sources, and Neftali Feliz, a former closer in his own right, is also expected to return from Tommy John surgery in about a month's time.

 

[DT LUNA]

Yes sarcasm, I believe he should be the first one accountable but the Wash apologists don't think so. Very frustrated all around however. I will never blame Wash for all of the issues though. You were correct in the statement that there has to be some level of leadership at the players level and and the players have to hold themselves accountable and do whatever it takes to right the ship. I have never seen a team where almost every player has struggled some much at the same time

Wash is not 100% to blame but the man at the top has to go when things go bad, We all should know that. Just a matter of fact.

 

[bradw516]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!?????
no way, for what?

or you mean hence the word "have", not any longer

I would assume for a bat. It's not that far fetched if you think about it. We've got Soria who could fill in as a closer, Feliz is starting rehab soon and, if back to form, could close again. Harrison will rehab soon, could move Ogando back to a late inning guy as well. Our bullpen is hands down our strongest area right now, and the closer market is weak with only Papelbon as the only option, so we could possibly entice a contender to overpay with a solid bat.

 

[Bmurph]

I don't particularly want him gone. I want to see accountability and that comes from two levels. The players have to contribute as well. Not much credit is due past the pitchers.

Darvish and Holland should be able to line the position players up in a row and kick them squarely in the jewels for the way they have let them down recently. Just unbelievable really, they have pitched their tails off

 

[lainey12]

The Rangers have considered trading closer Joe Nathan, Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports. The move would be aimed at taking advantage of the Rangers' deep bullpen and this year's thin relief pitching market.
With his 1.73 ERA in 41 2/3 innings this year, Nathan would immediately become the top closer on the market, Rosenthal says, placing him ahead of the Phillies' Jonathan Papelbon, who may not even be traded.
Former Royals closer Joakim Soria could step into the role for Texas, according to Rosenthal's sources, and Neftali Feliz, a former closer in his own right, is also expected to return from Tommy John surgery in about a month's time.

What would we be trading him for, if JD isn't going to get a bat...then you might as well hang on to the pitching, unless your talking prospects and now we are sellers?

 

[bradw516]

What would we be trading him for, if JD isn't going to get a bat...then you might as well hang on to the pitching, unless your talking prospects and now we are sellers?

JD has never outright said he wasn't going to make a trade for a bat. He said the market is weak, and that the players we have need to step up and correct their own issues, because there really isn't a big impact player right now.

 

[lainey12]

If Wash is not accountable then who is. Managers always have been. Like military generals, they get it done or the next one in line does. Has to be that way.

Wash should go before JD no question there, but GM's are certainly accountable too

 

[DT LUNA]

Darvish and Holland should be able to line the position players up in a row and kick them squarely in the jewels for the way they have let them down recently. Just unbelievable really, they have pitched their tails off

It is a crying shame. If the pitchers lose accountability then it's really over. That is the last hope and they will not last much longer with the support they're receiving.

 

[Bmurph]

What would we be trading him for, if JD isn't going to get a bat...then you might as well hang on to the pitching, unless your talking prospects and now we are sellers?

Well only teams in contention would make a trade for him and those teams would not be willing to give up ML level talent while they are in contention, so if this is the case we are selling

 

[lainey12]

Well only teams in contention would make a trade for him and those teams would not be willing to give up ML level talent while they are in contention, so if this is the case we are selling

WOW, sellers!!

F this whole season, ALL the way around
I hope the Angels do catch us now, who cares anymore

he's selling 5 games out, then he's just as guilty as far as "giving up"....what kind of signal does that send? What a hypocrite.

 

[bradw516]

Well only teams in contention would make a trade for him and those teams would not be willing to give up ML level talent while they are in contention, so if this is the case we are selling

Not necessarily. Adam Morris from lonestarball suggested a Nathan/Carl Crawford swap with the Dodgers. I'm sure there are other teams with extra resources that they could part with.

 

[Bmurph]

Wash should go before JD no question there, but GM's are certainly accountable too

I agree whole heartedly about JD being accountable as well and I believe that is part of the reason he felt he had to get the Garza deal done so the perception is he's doing his part

 

[darrylgann]

I agree whole heartedly about JD being accountable as well and I believe that is part of the reason he felt he had to get the Garza deal done so the perception is he's doing his part

Berkman is on JD. He owes us a DH.

 

[Bmurph]

Not necessarily. Adam Morris from lonestarball suggested a Nathan/Carl Crawford swap with the Dodgers. I'm sure there are other teams with extra resources that they could part with.

If I was the Dodgers hell yeah I would get rid of Crawford with that contract and the fact that dude can't stay on the field. That would be a great deal for the Dodgers, no way I'd do that if I was JD

 

[lainey12]

Berkman is on JD. He owes us a DH.

apparently he's busy selling now? are you freaking kidding me?

And yes, I've already said he owed us a DH, so he better not be selling.

 

[Justinkm83]

Not necessarily. Adam Morris from lonestarball suggested a Nathan/Carl Crawford swap with the Dodgers. I'm sure there are other teams with extra resources that they could part with.

I was actually thinking Ethier/Nathan

 

[Justinkm83]

apparently he's busy selling now? are you freaking kidding me?

And yes, I've already said he owed us a DH, so he better not be selling.

Trading Nathan is not selling Lainey. It's swapping a strength for a weakness.

 

[bradw516]

I was actually thinking Ethier/Nathan

I think that'd be preferable to Crawford. Friendlier contract, a bit more pop.