Panthers' prospect nearly gets his head blowed off.

[puckhead]

Florida Panthers prospect allegedly breaks into home, crashes on couch - CBSSports.com

Benjamin Garza was not home at the time his wife discovered Timmins in their house, but perhaps in Timmins' case, it may have been a good thing he wasn't.

Garza explained to reporter Karen Grace that upon facing Timmins, he told the Panthers prospect, "You're lucky I wasn't here because I would've put a bullet between your eyes and it would've been over for you."


Breaking into a house in Texas is never a good idea.

 

[GagneFire12]

"Ooops! This isn't the bathroom."

 

[juliansteed]

Pretty amusing story since nobody got hurt. I can understand the husband being upset but that's a pretty idiotic comment for him to make and quite the over-reaction.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

Pretty amusing story since nobody got hurt. I can understand the husband being upset but that's a pretty idiotic comment for him to make and quite the over-reaction.

overreaction?
Agree to disagree here.

Drunken 20-something breaks into my house in the middle of the night with my wife and children?

Nope.

I do not own a single gun, but I totally get dads point and understand. I don't have a gun, but I do have a bat at my bedside that would have made it's way to the side of this guys head if he did not leave immediately and swiftly.

You have no idea if he's there to pass out or r*pe mom and steal children.
Some people do stupid, insane, dangerous things when drunk, regardless of how they are sober.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

I have guns.... Don't break into my house because my kids & wife are more important to my than you are. Although I do not ever want to shoot anyone.

I am glad no one was hurt here tho.... I consider Mr. Timmins a very lucky man.

The other thing is, if I'm not home my wife would have shot him. LOL

 

[mooger_35]

The thought of my wife (redhead) with guns is a scary thought... lol

 

[sabre0917]

Guns are for pussies...period. No reason the public should have control of a object that can kill someone that easily. Buy an alarm system, move out of an area thats full of crime or call the cops (isnt that what they are paid to do help the public?). Sorry but thats what i think.

Ppl think its funny, but hey hes 20 years old and im sure we all have done some stupid stuff when we are drunk. No reason to be shot over.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

 

[puckhead]

nice flow in that mugshot

CANOE -- SLAM! Sports - Hockey NHL - Florida - Drunken Panthers prospect Scott Timmins broke into home, refused to leave: Cops

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

"Move out of an area thats full of crime"??

Seriously?

Nope.

I don't care if I lived in the hills of malibu.
I don't know you.
I don't know what your drunk/high ass is capable of.
You broke into my home and present a clear and immediate potential danger to my family.
As I s aid, I don't own a gun, but my bat will present a clear and immediate danger to your head.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

And yes, I have been in this situation. Good thing the dog woke me up.

Bat was in hand ready to destroy.
Guy never made it into the house, but bled all over my garage. (Not from me)
I lived in a "safe" suburban neighborhood.

Police found him a few hours later in a car bleeding to death from being stabbed.

Yeah.

But don't worry. He could have just been a harmless drunk hockey player looking for a place to crash, right. I may have overreacted.. :/

 

[Nasty_Magician]

I believe Adam Carolla said he keeps two blanks in his gun to fire off as warning shots so that he doesn't wind up shooting the neighbors kid that drunkenly stumbles into his house. If the two warning shots don't send you running, you deserve whatever happens after that.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

Guns are for pussies...period. No reason the public should have control of a object that can kill someone that easily. Buy an alarm system, move out of an area thats full of crime or call the cops (isnt that what they are paid to do help the public?). Sorry but thats what i think.

Ppl think its funny, but hey hes 20 years old and im sure we all have done some stupid stuff when we are drunk. No reason to be shot over.

Hey, I'm glad he didn't get injured or that he didn't injure anyone else. If you really want to stand behind that statement above, you'll have to outlaw much more than just guns. An automobile comes to mind, as they kill more people than any type of gun. The other thing is, maybe our boy shouldn't drink so much that he puts himself into a bad situation. I mean how drunk do you have to get to break into someone else's home??? Just sayin'

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

I believe Adam Carolla said he keeps two blanks in his gun to fire off as warning shots so that he doesn't wind up shooting the neighbors kid that drunkenly stumbles into his house. If the two warning shots don't send you running, you deserve whatever happens after that.

A little .410 shot gun with ice cream salt instead of pellets makes a good non-lethal projectile.

Don't ask me how I know.

 

[forty_three]

nice flow in that mugshot

CANOE -- SLAM! Sports - Hockey NHL - Florida - Drunken Panthers prospect Scott Timmins broke into home, refused to leave: Cops

/approves of the look

 

[juliansteed]

overreaction?
Agree to disagree here.

Drunken 20-something breaks into my house in the middle of the night with my wife and children?

Nope.

I do not own a single gun, but I totally get dads point and understand. I don't have a gun, but I do have a bat at my bedside that would have made it's way to the side of this guys head if he did not leave immediately and swiftly.

You have no idea if he's there to pass out or r*pe mom and steal children.
Some people do stupid, insane, dangerous things when drunk, regardless of how they are sober.

The difference is you give him the option to leave. This guy simply said he would have put a bullet in his head for passing out on their coach. In fact actually putting a bullet in his head in the heat of the moment (even though there'd be no reason he couldn't hold him at gunpoint until the police arrive) would have been more rational than to publicly make such a comment after the fact knowing that nobody was hurt and were never really any physical danger.

 

[juliansteed]

I have guns.... Don't break into my house because my kids & wife are more important to my than you are. Although I do not ever want to shoot anyone.

I am glad no one was hurt here tho.... I consider Mr. Timmins a very lucky man.

The other thing is, if I'm not home my wife would have shot him. LOL

I consider him a lucky man too. The husband is equally lucky that he wasn't home or he would be charged with 2nd degree murder, assuming he isn't all talk.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

I consider him a lucky man too. The husband is equally lucky that he wasn't home or he would be charged with 2nd degree murder, assuming he isn't all talk.

Well now that depends.... I'm not so sure that shooting an uninvited drunk man in your home at a late hour of the night would constitute 2nd degree. Did you read the story?

"An AHLer is lucky to be alive after allegedly breaking into a San Antonio home in a drunken stupor early Monday morning before refusing to leave.

"My first instinct was to beat the hell out of him," Benjamin Garza, the home’s owner, told CBS affiliate KENS5 in San Antonio. "(He’s) lucky I wasn't here because I would've put a bullet between (his) eyes and it would've been over.”

According to police, San Antonio Rampage centre Scott Timmins was so intoxicated at the scene he was unable to hold his own balance.

The report states that when Garza’s wife awoke to find the 23-year-old from Hamilton, Ont., lounging on her coach, she asked his name.

“Don’t worry about that,” Timmins said, according to the report.

"(Timmins) was yelling, 'What are you doing in my house?!'" said Garza, who wasn’t home at the time of the alleged incident. "My wife said, 'You need to get the hell out of here.’”

Garza’s wife eventually fled with the couple's three kids before calling authorities.

Before being hauled off to jail, police say Timmins admitted to being out the night before with teammates at a local bar, but insisted he didn’t mean any harm to those in the home.

"He needs to pay for what he did,” Garza said of Timmins. “Traumatizing my family like that."

The Rampage, a Florida Panthers affiliate, didn’t respond when the station reached out for comment.

Timmins has 20 career NHL games with the Panthers, scoring once since being drafted 165th overall by the club in 2009."


I can't understand why the fact he was too drunk to stand isn't the big issue here..... He drove to that location???? He couldn't stand up??? He refused to leave & some of y'all want to make it about the father/husband making a statement that he did not even follow through with?

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

The difference is you give him the option to leave. This guy simply said he would have put a bullet in his head for passing out on their coach. In fact actually putting a bullet in his head in the heat of the moment (even though there'd be no reason he couldn't hold him at gunpoint until the police arrive) would have been more rational than to publicly make such a comment after the fact knowing that nobody was hurt and were never really any physical danger.

counterpoint

We do not know even in the slightest whether this was something guy said in an angry rage fit, or while calmly speaking with him afterwards after hearing about it, referring to the heat of the moment, sleepy, with a stranger in his house confronted by his wife.
The reader takes that to his or her own interpretation, as it is not clearly defined. The assumption is the former simply because the reporter used the term "facing", which can be taken as confrontational.
Fact of the matter is, we really don't know.
He could very well have been saying it off the cuff while talking with the guy after the fact, and we are ASSUMING he said it in a menacing/threatening way, as there is not context to go by except our own imaginations.


He did not, in fact, "simply" say he would put a bullet in his head "for passing out on his couch". That is your interpretation.

Mine is that he would have done so in the heat of the moment while firmly believing his family was in danger with a drunken stranger confronted by his wife who broke into his house in the middle of the night.
Slightly different point of view

That said, whether he said it in a menacing fit of rage while being help back by riot police, or simply in a "<phew>, thank goodness I wasn't there" conversation... I have no problem with this either way.

You do stupid drunk things, you take your chances.
I've done amazingly stupid drunk things, never once did I break into a strangers house in the middle of the night. Why? Simple. Might get shot. lol

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Well now that depends.... I'm not so sure that shooting an uninvited drunk man in your home at a late hour of the night would constitute 2nd degree. Did you read the story?

"An AHLer is lucky to be alive after allegedly breaking into a San Antonio home in a drunken stupor early Monday morning before refusing to leave.

"My first instinct was to beat the hell out of him," Benjamin Garza, the home’s owner, told CBS affiliate KENS5 in San Antonio. "(He’s) lucky I wasn't here because I would've put a bullet between (his) eyes and it would've been over.”

According to police, San Antonio Rampage centre Scott Timmins was so intoxicated at the scene he was unable to hold his own balance.

The report states that when Garza’s wife awoke to find the 23-year-old from Hamilton, Ont., lounging on her coach, she asked his name.

“Don’t worry about that,” Timmins said, according to the report.

"(Timmins) was yelling, 'What are you doing in my house?!'" said Garza, who wasn’t home at the time of the alleged incident. "My wife said, 'You need to get the hell out of here.’”

Garza’s wife eventually fled with the couple's three kids before calling authorities.

Before being hauled off to jail, police say Timmins admitted to being out the night before with teammates at a local bar, but insisted he didn’t mean any harm to those in the home.

"He needs to pay for what he did,” Garza said of Timmins. “Traumatizing my family like that."

The Rampage, a Florida Panthers affiliate, didn’t respond when the station reached out for comment.

Timmins has 20 career NHL games with the Panthers, scoring once since being drafted 165th overall by the club in 2009."


I can't understand why the fact he was too drunk to stand isn't the big issue here..... He drove to that location???? He couldn't stand up??? He refused to leave & some of y'all want to make it about the father/husband making a statement that he did not even follow through with?

I think the issue is that the first instinct is to shoot someone in the face.

If the guy was that drunk you just kick his ass and turf him out of the door if he becomes the least bit physically aggressive.

I personally think the guy going to jail is probably about right for his transgressions.

He fucked up and I'm sure it was alarming for the wife and kids. It sounds like she did absolutely the right thing though. Make absolutely sure the kids are safe and let the authorities earn their paychecks.