Palmer or Dalton

[JBUCK66]

granted we've soured on both

but sigh, probably Palmer was better dang it

 

[icehole3]

This question is like taking castor oil. Palmer

 

[Cincyfan78]

Does it matter?

Palmer didn't want to be here. So, even if we would have loved to have kept Palmer, it wouldn't have mattered. He was gone.

Dandy will be here a long time. He wants to be here, and he's cheap.

 

[JBUCK66]

since when do questions have to matter

 

[DanBengalfan]

Palmer would have loved playing with AJ Green, but he wouldn't have loved doing it under the same circus that let mental cases and criminals run amuck in the locker room.

 

[jwil007]

Does it matter?

Palmer didn't want to be here. So, even if we would have loved to have kept Palmer, it wouldn't have mattered. He was gone.

Dandy will be here a long time. He wants to be here, and he's cheap.

If he gets a playoff win next season then yes if he has a losing season or doesnt make the playoffs HE IS GONE! HIM AND LEWIS!

 

[NCBengal]

I think Palmer would have thrown just as many INTs as Dandy but there would have been more pick 6s.

But he can throw the long ball ... so I think they evenly matched in frustrating the shit out of us.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Palmer had more talent in him, and talent around him, but he lacked a true team, and was never a "leader".

Dalton has less talent in general, I think, but has a better "team", which elevates their play.

Palmer and that offense carried the defense many times.

Dalton is carried by the defense many times.

It also depends on what Palmer you are getting. Are you gett the 2005, pre knee and elbow problems palmer, or the jittery, shaken after knee, and wobbly ball after the elbow issues Palmer.

 

[cincygrad]

2005 Carson Palmer with this defensive support would have been fun to watch. It's impossible to know whether he would have stepped up in the playoffs, but he couldn't be as bad as Dalton.

 

[alf8478]

Palmer had more talent in him, and talent around him, but he lacked a true team, and was never a "leader".

Dalton has less talent in general, I think, but has a better "team", which elevates their play.

Palmer and that offense carried the defense many times.

Dalton is carried by the defense many times.

It also depends on what Palmer you are getting. Are you gett the 2005, pre knee and elbow problems palmer, or the jittery, shaken after knee, and wobbly ball after the elbow issues Palmer.

Dalton isn't a leader either.

That's the fundamental problem with this team, they've gotten no leadership from the quarterback position for 10 years. No offense to Whit, we all love him, but if your offensive leader is a tackle/guard, its not a good sign

 

[Cincyfan78]

Dalton isn't a leader either.

That's the fundamental problem with this team, they've gotten no leadership from the quarterback position for 10 years. No offense to Whit, we all love him, but if your offensive leader is a tackle/guard, its not a good sign

That is true. Dalton isn't a leader, either.

However, I think that in 2005-2010 the team NEEDED Palmer to lead, because Ocho, TO, TJ, and the like were inmates running the assylum.

Not so much the case here, but you are correct. Dalton has to step up and start holding other players accountable on offense. The problem with that is, no one is holding Dalton accountable for his issues, so he has no room to bark at another player when he, himself, can't follow through.

*edit, this isn't to say that this team didnt' need a leader, was just pointing out that the dysfunction of Palmers' team poits to a dire need. This team needs a leader, but for different reasons.

 

[alf8478]

That is true. Dalton isn't a leader, either.

However, I think that in 2005-2010 the team NEEDED Palmer to lead, because Ocho, TO, TJ, and the like were inmates running the assylum.

Not so much the case here, but you are correct. Dalton has to step up and start holding other players accountable on offense. The problem with that is, no one is holding Dalton accountable for his issues, so he has no room to bark at another player when he, himself, can't follow through.

*edit, this isn't to say that this team didnt' need a leader, was just pointing out that the dysfunction of Palmers' team poits to a dire need. This team needs a leader, but for different reasons.

I agree, Carson let those two walk all over him and didn't do anything about it, and neither did Marvin

 

[futballiscool]

 

[DanBengalfan]

Man files motion that Chargers aren't playoff-worthy - NFL.com


chargers talking about Andy Dalton like he's a joke. (the video, not the article)

 

[bengaldoug]

I agree, Carson let those two walk all over him and didn't do anything about it, and neither did Marvin

Palmer should have stepped up but never did. He never took responsiblity and chose to run away because he felt Lewis should have handled the problem and didn't.

 

[cincygrad]

Was this artwork commissioned by Flamingrey?

 

[futballiscool]

Was this artwork commissioned by Flamingrey?

 

[JBUCK66]

ha...knee brace...classic