OT: The Walking Dead - BEWARE OF SPOILERS

[Nasty_Magician]

I've already said I'm going kamikaze. Head to a place where there are a lot of them, attract as much attention as possible and then lighting up propane tanks. It'll buy some time for the others. You're welcome.

 

[Comeds]

If, I mean when (sorry Comeds), the zombie apocalypse happens. I'd definitely head to the mountains/country as quickly as possible. Roads would be a mess - jammed up and filled with current and future zombies. So I'd probably leave the city through the subway tubes and hike through the countryside as much as possible. Hopefully along the way I am able to find a variety of seeds, tools, and busty women. Then I'm finding camp with some kind of natural barrier on one side (lake, cliff) and digging a ditch/moat around the other side to be protected.

Thats always been my plan too. I was just thinking if part of a larger group that a stadium might work out. Open air, with open concourses to have people look out of and defend from. If its a natural grass stadium perhaps crops could be planted inside.

For the mountains option it would be nice to live in an area with carnivores.

Im going to Canada hopefully the cold will slow them down and in the summers it does get warm enough to grow food. But I agree I think the hill and country are your best shot of survival.

Polar bear country!

 

[mattola]

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[jstewismybastardson]

i think id stick it out at my place ... i have a lot of plywood and a great selection of pick axes and machetes that the old owner left in the garage ... and my neighbour is a hunter/outdoorsman who has alot of cured meats

 

[mattola]

i think id stick it out at my place ... i have a lot of plywood and a great selection of pick axes and machetes that the old owner left in the garage ... and my neighbour is a hunter/outdoorsman who has alot of cured meats

same. Id stick it out as long as I can. Ive enough chopping weapons here my neighbour is really handy at building so Im thinking we are good to blockades

 

[jstewismybastardson]

my wife saw the machetes and pick axes yesterday and asked me why I havent gotten rid of them and I didnt want to tell her im saving them for the impending zombie attacks because then she would have been all naggy and said "well dont you think you should sharpen them" and i didnt want it to become a thing ... a simple "I will hun" was appropriate in this circumstance

pick your battles!

 

[mattola]

my wife saw the machetes and pick axes yesterday and asked me why I havent gotten rid of them and I didnt want to tell her im saving them for the impending zombie attacks because then she would have been all naggy and said "well dont you think you should sharpen them" and i didnt want it to become a thing ... a simple "I will hun" was appropriate in this circumstance

pick your battles!

ive got my wife hooked where she actually picks out survival spots in case we are on the road. about 2 seconds after she points out a safe spot I catch her shaking her head mumblind WTF am I doing under her breath

 

[juliansteed]

I only thought Rick should have mentioned more about how they took in the Governor's people after he killed most of them. I would think more of the people in the new Gov group would have questioned what they were doing (like the one girl did). 'Hey, ya know... a lot of people in our group are suddenly dead when with Brian and nobody else is around. Hmmm.' But I can understand how in this new world and with all the fear/concern, it's probably easy to be manipulated.

I'm with you on this one. No question the Governor is a master manipulator. I can buy that he managed to manipulate that group into going to the prison on the premise that nobody would likely get hurt and that the prison was mostly full of convicts anyway. But once they got to the prison, it seemed as if Tara was the only reasonable one among them. Once they saw that Rick appeared to be pretty reasonable and compassionate while the Governor was holding a sword to an old man's head, you'd think a few more people might have questioned what was going on. Especially after he chopped Herschel's head off while Rick was trying to negotiate. Maybe they could have looked past the moral aspect of this act if there was any sort of tactical logic behind it, which there wasn't. It seemed kinda silly at that point that they were willing to kill and be killed over a prison that they made a conscious decision to destroy.

I guess we just have to assume that by that point they realized they were in over their head's and were beyond the point of no return. He probably couldn't have pulled it off without Mitch speaking up showing that he clearly had his back. That likely added some extra intimidation. That being said, even though Mitch is an asshole himself, you would think that he might have realized that maybe it would be in his own best interest to maybe side with Rick and take him up on his offer to join the prison group instead of destroying the prison's fences with his tank making it no so safe for anyone anymore. Add in the fact that "Brian" recently murdered Mitch's brother, pointed a gun at Mitch, and likely pulls the trigger if not for the fact that he knew how to operate a tank (and an ice cream truck), and Mitch doesn't look like he's the best decision maker.

 

[juliansteed]

oh has this world not yet realized leaving your children out of reach basically unsupervised is a pretty bad idea.. good grief

No kidding. The Governor had a lot of blood on his hands in this episode. He was either partially or entirely at fault for every single person that died, except Meghan. That was 100% Lilly's fault.

Sure they wouldn't been in that location if not for the Governor's plan, but as we saw last week she could just as easily get attacked by a zombie at the old camp if left unsupervised. She can't watch her kid 24/7 but that doesn't mean she shouldn't watch her some of the time. It seems like maybe a good time to keep her close would be when you are alone with her in a zombie apocalypse in an unfamiliar location with only a river as a barrier on 1 side.

 

[elocomotive]

No kidding. The Governor had a lot of blood on his hands in this episode. He was either partially or entirely at fault for every single person that died, except Meghan. That was 100% Lilly's fault.

Frankly, how terrible are Rick and the Notorious G.O.V. at leading groups.

The Gov has lead two groups now and 100% of the people in those groups are now dead, many by his own hand or direct actions. He promises nothing will happen to a little girl? Next day - dead!

Rick has a much stronger record with just over 50% of the people in his groups now dead, though it's still not anything to brag about. He finally steps down from leadership and what do you know, things are relatively peaceful for a long period. Back in charge for ONE day? Bam! Group members killed, current home destroyed, and the group is scattered.

Rick wins, but not by much.

The Gov only wins in bedding chicks. Two different good-looking dames in a post apocalyptic world? Not bad. Rick meanwhile can't even bed his own wife. Pathetic.

 

[mattola]

Frankly, how terrible are Rick and the Notorious G.O.V. at leading groups.

The Gov has lead two groups now and 100% of the people in those groups are now dead, many by his own hand or direct actions. He promises nothing will happen to a little girl? Next day - dead!

Rick has a much stronger record with just over 50% of the people in his groups now dead, though it's still not anything to brag about. He finally steps down from leadership and what do you know, things are relatively peaceful for a long period. Back in charge for ONE day? Bam! Group members killed, current home destroyed, and the group is scattered.

Rick wins, but not by much.

The Gov only wins in bedding chicks. Two different good-looking dames in a post apocalyptic world? Not bad. Rick meanwhile can't even bed his own wife. Pathetic.

rick got lori once in the tent at the original camp

yeah ricks track record is pretty terrible but for the most part his own group is still in tact for that type of world I guess thats positive lol. I was thinking about it the other day that rick physically is not much of a fighter, he always seems to be pretty beat up after a scrap but this time the governor really kicked his ass. I mean really beat him down

 

[puckhead]

Zombie day comes, I am taking over a Costco. Those places are freaking fortresses, and stocked.
I would keep on one of the greeters though, because there is no way a zombie could be nimble enough to get his membership card out of his wallet.


Oh yeah, wicked episode.

 

[calsnowskier]

Frankly, how terrible are Rick and the Notorious G.O.V. at leading groups.

The Gov has lead two groups now and 100% of the people in those groups are now dead, many by his own hand or direct actions. He promises nothing will happen to a little girl? Next day - dead!

Rick has a much stronger record with just over 50% of the people in his groups now dead, though it's still not anything to brag about. He finally steps down from leadership and what do you know, things are relatively peaceful for a long period. Back in charge for ONE day? Bam! Group members killed, current home destroyed, and the group is scattered.

Rick wins, but not by much.

The Gov only wins in bedding chicks. Two different good-looking dames in a post apocalyptic world? Not bad. Rick meanwhile can't even bed his own wife. Pathetic.

Actually, he had another cutie while in Woodbury. Merle went to his apartment at one point to tell him something and a piece got out of his bed in the background.

 

[elocomotive]

Actually, he had another cutie while in Woodbury. Merle went to his apartment at one point to tell him something and a piece got out of his bed in the background.

That's right - good call.


Also, above, I wasn't really serious about Rick being a bad leader. He clearly has all the qualities you'd want in a leader. I keep thinking of Rick and Governor political-style attack ads slamming each other's bad records...

(narrator voice) "Did you know Rick Grimes has lost more than 60% of the people in his groups? If you didn't know him at the farm, your chance of survival with him (screen goes red) is less than 20%. He was deposed of his leadership after a psychological episode that left him useless. And what do we really know about Rick Grimes in his private life... except that he can't even impregnate his own wife!! This prison doesn't need an unsafe, insane, impotent leader. It needs strong leadership from a man who gave his own eye to save fellow humans. This fall - vote Governor for Prison Warden."

(this all pre-supposes they tried to live together by the by)

 

[juliansteed]

If I was in a zombie apocalypse this is what I would do to survive.

For starters, I'd try to travel near the back of a herd. Sure I wouldn't get first dibs on fresh meat but the guys at the front of the herd are always the ones that end up getting shot in the head.

If a human is being really obnoxious making lots of noise and flashing lights and waving their arms around, I would avoid it at all cost. If it seems too good to be true then it probably is. It's probably a trap to lure me so they can kill me, mutilate me and use my guts as camouflage, perform experiments on me, distract me from an opportunity to score some easy prey, or some combination thereof. I'd let the rest of my herd (however big or small) investigate the obnoxious humans and hide out in the background until I see what's up. Depending on the situation I would either remain out of sight or wait for the right opportunity to strike an isolated, unsuspecting human just when they think the coast is clear.

If I detect hostilities between 2 groups of humans, then I would tread lightly in the background while they sort out their differences. I'd resist temptation to move in too early as soon as I see fresh dead bodies as I'd still risk being caught in the crossfire. I'd wait until they pretty much kill each other and the survivors have all fled then I would go in for whatever leftovers I could find.

Ideally, I'd have an opportunity to find an abandoned farming community. I'd rather prey on animals than humans because animals won't shoot or stab me in the brain. It would also be nice if I was in the middle of playing hockey or football when I turned so that I'd be wearing a helmet.

Other than that, just the usual basic stuff. Wait around for a child playing in the sand by herself, look for old men walking around farms alone in the dark etc. Under absolutely no circumstances would I ever allow myself to be lured toward a fire.

 

[Comeds]

If I was in a zombie apocalypse this is what I would do to survive.

For starters, I'd try to travel near the back of a herd. Sure I wouldn't get first dibs on fresh meat but the guys at the front of the herd are always the ones that end up getting shot in the head.

If a human is being really obnoxious making lots of noise and flashing lights and waving their arms around, I would avoid it at all cost. If it seems too good to be true then it probably is. It's probably a trap to lure me so they can kill me, mutilate me and use my guts as camouflage, perform experiments on me, distract me from an opportunity to score some easy prey, or some combination thereof. I'd let the rest of my herd (however big or small) investigate the obnoxious humans and hide out in the background until I see what's up. Depending on the situation I would either remain out of sight or wait for the right opportunity to strike an isolated, unsuspecting human just when they think the coast is clear.

If I detect hostilities between 2 groups of humans, then I would tread lightly in the background while they sort out their differences. I'd resist temptation to move in too early as soon as I see fresh dead bodies as I'd still risk being caught in the crossfire. I'd wait until they pretty much kill each other and the survivors have all fled then I would go in for whatever leftovers I could find.

Ideally, I'd have an opportunity to find an abandoned farming community. I'd rather prey on animals than humans because animals won't shoot or stab me in the brain. It would also be nice if I was in the middle of playing hockey or football when I turned so that I'd be wearing a helmet.

Other than that, just the usual basic stuff. Wait around for a child playing in the sand by herself, look for old men walking around farms alone in the dark etc. Under absolutely no circumstances would I ever allow myself to be lured toward a fire.

That's fantastic.

 

[juliansteed]

the whole scene with the kids initially leaving with judith in the car seat for the bus was a bit over the top in so much as they exagerated how heavy the carseat was for the kid luggin it around ... right away i thought, probably easier to get her out of that seat ... and honestly a car seat???? is rick gonna issue a citation if she isnt belted into the Hyundai properly???

i never thought amc would be ok with a baby being blown to bits (even in a zombie tv show)

I watched it again and I'm pretty sure Judith is alive and with Tyreese, and probably Lizzy and Mika and whoever else. Not sure where the blood came from and a few other things but this is why I think she is alive.

After Lizzy and Mika save Tyreese, he wants to go 1 way and they led him to go another way. They are all outside at this point. Later there is a quick scene where it shows Tyreese coming out a door from the inside and he appears to be carrying something right before there is a tank blast in that direction. This is right after Michonne stabs the Governor and before Daryl puts the grenade in the tank. I'm thinking when they decided to get guns they also decided to leave Judith inside somewhere and as you mentioned, left the car seat. When Tyreese said they had to get out of there, they both immediately ran in a certain direction without any thought. Tyreese followed them and they explained they had to get Judith. They told him where she was and he ran in and grabbed her. Also I couldn't tell but I assume she was buckled in when the kids originally had her in the car seat. It looked like the buckle was undone when Rick and Carl found it empty. The blood can probably be explained a number of ways but no specific ways come immediately to mind.

 

[mattola]

I watched it again and I'm pretty sure Judith is alive and with Tyreese, and probably Lizzy and Mika and whoever else. Not sure where the blood came from and a few other things but this is why I think she is alive.

After Lizzy and Mika save Tyreese, he wants to go 1 way and they led him to go another way. They are all outside at this point. Later there is a quick scene where it shows Tyreese coming out a door from the inside and he appears to be carrying something right before there is a tank blast in that direction. This is right after Michonne stabs the Governor and before Daryl puts the grenade in the tank. I'm thinking when they decided to get guns they also decided to leave Judith inside somewhere and as you mentioned, left the car seat. When Tyreese said they had to get out of there, they both immediately ran in a certain direction without any thought. Tyreese followed them and they explained they had to get Judith. They told him where she was and he ran in and grabbed her. Also I couldn't tell but I assume she was buckled in when the kids originally had her in the car seat. It looked like the buckle was undone when Rick and Carl found it empty. The blood can probably be explained a number of ways but no specific ways come immediately to mind.

Leave it to rick to leave his youngest child to be watched by someone else

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Leave it to rick to leave shanes youngest child to be watched by someone else

Fify lol

 

[mattola]

Fify lol

Funny part was that's what I originally typed heh