NFL QB: Closest to Perfection

[HammerDown]

Not surprisingly, the greatest QB in the history of the game is still tops.


My only other comment is that I'd take Flacco over that shrimp Drew Brees any day.

 

[JDM]

Brees is overrated IMO. He's too inconsistent.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[HammerDown]

Brees is overrated IMO. He's too inconsistent.

Seeing the hype surrounding this system QB is truly laughable.

 

[spacedoodoopistol]

I think that chart just means he's been the best since 2010, like it says.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Wow, I don't think I ever seen "overrated" used with Drew Brees before.
You like who you like, but Flacco over Brees...I think the majority would pass.
I will say...an ugly winner is STILL a winner...I can't take that away from Flacco or his 2012 playoff performance. But goodness Brees has destroyed the league two years in a row now.

 

[threelittleturds]

Has ESPN ever fully disclosed their QBR? Or is it still a matter of subjective homerism on what they felt was a good or bad play by the QB?

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

greatest QB in the history of the game

I agree

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

Has ESPN ever fully disclosed their QBR? Or is it still a matter of subjective homerism on what they felt was a good or bad play by the QB?

I'd rather go by the subjective homeristic opinions of message board dork.

 

[rmilia1]

Not surprisingly, the greatest QB in the history of the game is still tops.

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My only other comment is that I'd take Flacco over that shrimp Drew Brees any day.

I think that is my exact top 5 I posted in the Top 10 QB thread.... Weird.

 

[threelittleturds]

I'd rather go by the subjective homeristic opinions of message board dork.

Awwww, there there little buddy, I didn't say Peyton Manning was bad... it's OK Mr. Sensitive. I just asked if QBR was still essentially a made up statistic.

 

[JDM]

It is.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

Awwww, there there little buddy, I didn't say Peyton Manning was bad... it's OK Mr. Sensitive. I just asked if QBR was still essentially a made up statistic.

I know you don't think Peyton is bad. I just find it amusing how message board dork can critique an obvious made up statistic created by former NFL quarterbacks.

 

[JDM]

I know you don't think Peyton is bad. I just find it amusing how message board dork can critique an obvious made up statistic created by former NFL quarterbacks.

If the numbers aren't objective, it's not a statistic.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

If the numbers aren't objective, it's not a statistic.

all statistics can be subjective

 

[wilwhite]

Since 2010? That's only one season for Peyton.

 

[JDM]

all statistics can be subjective

No. There can be small edge cases that rely on a scorers judgement, but if the bulk of your numbers are subjective it has minimal value.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

No. There can be small edge cases that rely on a scorers judgement, but if the bulk of your numbers are subjective it has minimal value.

maybe to you, but I personally value the opinions of former NFL quarterbacks rather than some boxscorewhore such as yourself.

 

[JDM]

maybe to you, but I personally value the opinions of former NFL quarterbacks rather than some boxscorewhore such as yourself.

You don't have to try to pretend it's a statistic when it's clearly not. That doesn't mean you can't use it in a discussion, just that actual statistics have more value.

 

[Manning2Luck_uJelly]

You don't have to try to pretend it's a statistic when it's clearly not. That doesn't mean you can't use it in a discussion, just that actual statistics have more value.

I said I value the opinions of former NFL quarterbacks....which is exactly what QBR is. And no, actual stats do not hold more value than opinion. Stats can most certainly be smoke-n-mirrors.