NFL in LA in trouble?

[The Oldtimer]

The majority of Rams fans still live in St. Louis.

The Rams are averaging 69,000 fans at home. That is more than the Seahawks and Patriots.

 

[The Oldtimer]

When the rams dip in success and the chargers become a good team, attendance will flip.

The Chargers are not doing too bad record wise so far this season.

 

[williewilliejuan]

It’s pretty easy to understand:

The Rams are the football Lakers and the Chargers are the football Clippers.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

The Chargers are not doing too bad record wise so far this season.

They aren’t near as good as the rams. LA fans know this and are on board the bandwagon.

 

[fastforward]

Chargers are gagging... can't even fill a 30K stadium with their own fans. The Chiefs game to start the year was a sea of red. I can't imagine what they'll do when they move after the RAMS stadium is built. I suppose they would tarp off vast sections of the upper decks with their team's color like the Raider currently do.

Mr. Spanos is too cheap to pay for tarps...or pay for their storage.

 

[The Derski]

Not true at all, the atmosphere for the last game was great 75k fans. Place was hopping.

Chargers are a good team. I think fans would show up if they didn’t play in a 30k soccer stadium.

 

[williewilliejuan]

They aren’t near as good as the rams. LA fans know this and are on board the bandwagon.

The winner and loser of the LA football race was over before it began and it had nothing to do with records. When the Rams said they were coming back, LA was excited. The fans were pumped and at that time, the Rams sucked. When the Chargers announced, you could hear a pin drop. No one cared. No one wanted them. People wanted the Raiders, but no one wanted the Chargers. They’re always going to be the second choice team in LA.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

The winner and loser of the LA football race was over before it began and it had nothing to do with records. When the Rams said they were coming back, LA was excited. The fans were pumped and at that time, the Rams sucked. When the Chargers announced, you could hear a pin drop. No one cared. No one wanted them. People wanted the Raiders, but no one wanted the Chargers. They’re always going to be the second choice team in LA.

Well, you’d know better than me. If the rams sucked, they wouldn’t be getting all of this support.

 

[williewilliejuan]

Well, you’d know better than me. If the rams sucked, they wouldn’t be getting all of this support.

They were second in the league in home attendance in 2016, a season in which they went 4-12 in the worst stadium in the NFL not located in Oakland.

 

[SJ76]

There's no way there's more real fans in LA than there are from their years in St. Louis. LA isn't a sports town. But Hollywood loves a good bangwagon.

People in St. Louis are not happy at all about Kroenke leaving. A big majority of them do not like the Rams. St. Louis people are kinda weird and are way more loyal to their city than most.

 

[SJ76]

They were second in the league in home attendance in 2016, a season in which they went 4-12 in the worst stadium in the NFL not located in Oakland.

They were also a lot of fans from the opposing team at many of those home games.

 

[SJ76]

I’m totally guessing here but I doubt 20% of people in St. Louis are still Rams fans. Could be lower

 

[ATL96Steeler]

There's no way there's more real fans in LA than there are from their years in St. Louis. LA isn't a sports town. But Hollywood loves a good bangwagon.

Your last sentence I think is spot on. LA is very much a sports town...but you better win.

Here ya go...curtesy of Pro-football-reference.com

Rams attendance last decade...yr/attendance/league rank

'08...479,843...30th
'09...441,901...29th
'10...423,838...30th
'11...451,153...31st
'12...480,929...28th
'13...455,657...31st
'14...456,146...29th
'15...419,220...32nd
'16...665,318...2nd**
'17...507,136...26th**
'18...207,489...13th**+

**LA Rams
**+...Thru week 6

We love to rail on SoCal and LA when it comes the NFL gate, but based on this data above, the Rams will likely fare better at the gate in LA...and we know the real money in the NFL is in TV and there are a whole lot more TV sets in SoCal.

 

[Iggloo]

I think the real question at this point is where to the Chargers wind up, because they are not going to survive in LA. Back to San Diego? Doubtful IMO unless there is an ownership change. I think this team will be moving again though.

 

[Iggloo]

The winner and loser of the LA football race was over before it began and it had nothing to do with records. When the Rams said they were coming back, LA was excited. The fans were pumped and at that time, the Rams sucked. When the Chargers announced, you could hear a pin drop. No one cared. No one wanted them. People wanted the Raiders, but no one wanted the Chargers. They’re always going to be the second choice team in LA.

Pretty much. A lot of younger people forget or never knew that LA was the Rams' home market to begin with before they left in 1994. When I lived in LA, one of the Mexican restaurants near my house was an old Rams bar with tons of memorabilia, and people would pile in there to watch the St. Louis games. They had an old existing fan base to work from.

 

[Iggloo]

Here's a thought: Mexico City Rayos?

el rayo (m)
I know a man who was struck by a bolt of lightning and survived.

Conozco a un hombre que fue alcanzado por un rayo y sobrevivió.

 

[Manster7588]

I think the real question at this point is where to the Chargers wind up, because they are not going to survive in LA. Back to San Diego? Doubtful IMO unless there is an ownership change. I think this team will be moving again though.

They can move to Mexico and call themselves Tacos

 

[Manster7588]

Here's a thought: Mexico City Rayos?

el rayo (m)
I know a man who was struck by a bolt of lightning and survived.

Conozco a un hombre que fue alcanzado por un rayo y sobrevivió.

I don't like you right now.

 

[williewilliejuan]

Your last sentence I think is spot on. LA is very much a sports town...but you better win.

Here ya go...curtesy of Pro-football-reference.com

Rams attendance last decade...yr/attendance/league rank

'08...479,843...30th
'09...441,901...29th
'10...423,838...30th
'11...451,153...31st
'12...480,929...28th
'13...455,657...31st
'14...456,146...29th
'15...419,220...32nd
'16...665,318...2nd**
'17...507,136...26th**
'18...207,489...13th**+

**LA Rams
**+...Thru week 6

We love to rail on SoCal and LA when it comes the NFL gate, but based on this data above, the Rams will likely fare better at the gate in LA...and we know the real money in the NFL is in TV and there are a whole lot more TV sets in SoCal.

Not to mention that they’re still playing at the Coliseum, which is a dump, has no parking and is impossible to get to. The new stadium will still be hard to get to since it’s next to LAX (and Monday night games will be ridiculous), but they’ll see a nice spike in attendance when the new stadium opens.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I think the real question at this point is where to the Chargers wind up, because they are not going to survive in LA. Back to San Diego? Doubtful IMO unless there is an ownership change. I think this team will be moving again though.

Agreed...SD never wanted to lose the Chargers...maybe he sold prior and I'm not aware, but Spanos finally checked out...for good about a week or 2 ago.

I don't foresee the Chargers in LA long term.